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Don't Say Content

Devin Bramhall & Margaret Kelsey

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Marketing and business strategy podcast for executives and marketing leaders who want to improve outcomes from marketing. Marketing veterans Devin Bramhall (Animalz, Help Scout) & Margaret Kelsey (InVision, OpenView) use their combined 20+ years of experience to increase the business impact of marketing by creating shared understanding of its purpose and outcomes among marketing leaders, founders/CEOs & others in the C-suite. Join us for in-depth conversations about B2B marketing behind the ...
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Tune in for conversations with eclectic and enlivening marketers. Imagine your weird shower thoughts and disparate liberal arts references took a road trip. This podcast is the soundtrack. Great marketing ideas can come from anywhere. So let’s talk about some.
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Radio Maria est née en 1983 dans une paroisse de la province de Côme en Italie. Sa mission, est de diffuser l’Evangile en harmonie avec la doctrine et les indications pastorales fournies par l’Eglise catholique, dans le fidélité au Saint Père, et en utilisant toutes les possibilités que peut offrir un moyen de diffusion radiophonique. Aujourd’hui Radio Maria est présente dans plus de 60 pays. Elle s’adresse chaque jour à des millions d’auditeurs et en 13 langues différentes.
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The Dream. Work. Film. Podcast covers all things indie. Follow along with female filmmaker, Kelsey Jorissen, as she interviews indie filmmakers and learns about their process. From indie web series to feature films, the Dream Work Film Podcast covers the ins and outs of writing, creating, funding, producing, directing, editing, and distributing indie cinema. This podcast is a wonderful resource for first time filmmakers to use and implement as they experience their first film projects.
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14th September 2024 14th September, 2024 – Join Fr Adrian Crowley for a discussion on Catholic teaching, current events and general updates from Radio Maria Ireland. In this episode of Chatechesis, Father Adrian is joined by Thomas Roche. He tells of the two ways of knowing God: through reason and through revelation. He gives the lovely story of St…
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Welcome back to Don't Say Content! While we gear up for season 5, we are re-releasing a timely episode on marketing attribution, AI in content strategy, and the evolution of SEO and brand awareness. To get even more specific, we dive into the ongoing debate over the relevance of attribution models, the necessity of integrating quality relationship-…
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16th October, 2024 –In this episode of “Science, Religion, and the Modern World,” Michael Flanagan dives into the topic of temptation. Why is it important to lead a full happy and healthy life? How can we use 21st century methodologies and techniques to help deal with temptation particularly in the area of psychology? L'articolo E33 | Science, Reli…
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16th October, 2024 – In this episode of “Saint of the Week,” host Sabrina looks at St. Margaret Mary Alacoque and the Devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. L'articolo E164 | Saint of the Week – Sabrina McKiernan – St. Margaret Mary Alacoque and devotion to the Sacred Heart. proviene da Radio Maria.Af Radio Maria France
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15th October, 2024 – Join Harry and Michelle for a continuation of their discussion on C. S. Lewis and his ‘The Four Loves’. L'articolo E156 | Pure in Heart – Harry and Michelle – Part two of C. S. Lewis ‘The Four Loves’ proviene da Radio Maria.Af Radio Maria France
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15th October, 2024 – Join Margaret for lots of information about gardening and nature especially about trees and berries in Autumn. She will also answer all your gardening questions. Live every Tuesday at 2:00 PM on Radio Maria Ireland! L'articolo E242 | Sow and Grow – Margaret Griffin – God uses the beauty of creation to speak to us proviene da Ra…
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11th October, 2024– Join Thomas & Michelle for a new episode of All the Saints of Ireland, and learn about the amazing Saints our island has been blessed with! In this episode of All the Saints of Ireland, the hosts delve into the life of St. Canice of Aghaboe and much more on Saints of the current season. L'articolo E37 | All the Saints of Ireland…
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10th October, 2024 – In this episode of “Life Matters,” Aoife Collins speaks with Monica Kelsey who tells her incredible story of how she started Safe Haven Baby Boxes, Inc. after learning she was abandoned as an infant and after seeing a “baby box” in operation at a church. L'articolo E65 | Life Matters – Aoife Collins – Monica Kelsey founder of S…
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9th October, 2024 –In this episode of “Science, Religion, and the Modern World,” Michael Flanagan concludes the controversial topic of abortion. L'articolo E32 | Science, Religion, and the Modern World – Michael Flanagan – Conclusion of the Abortion topic proviene da Radio Maria.Af Radio Maria France
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9th October, 2024 – In this final episode, Ken and returning guest John Quigley discuss Saint Elizabeth of the Trinity. L'articolo E6 | Echoes of Carmel – Ken Hackett – Saint Elizabeth of the Trinity with John Quigley proviene da Radio Maria.Af Radio Maria France
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9th October, 2024 – In this episode of “Saint of the Week,” host Sabrina looks at the life of St. John Henry Newman, who was previously an Anglican priest and after his conversion became a cardinal and has made a huge contribution to the Catholic church. His motto as cardinal was “Heart speaks onto Heart”. L'articolo E163 | Saint of the Week – Sabr…
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8th October, 2024 – Join Margaret for lots of information about gardening and nature especially about the garden in Autumn. She will also answer all your gardening questions. Live every Tuesday at 2:00 PM on Radio Maria Ireland! L'articolo E241 | Sow and Grow – Margaret Griffin – changes of colour in the Seasons proviene da Radio Maria.…
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On this bonus episode, you'll hear our own Devin Bramhall in conversation with Alex Kracov from Dock on his show, Grow and Tell. They talk about how startups should be thinking about content, how she scaled Animalz, and how she grew our podcast, Don't Say Content. Check out Grow and Tell here: https://www.dock.us/grow-and-tell…
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In this replay, we're talking about one of those tough moments in leadership. You’re ready to hire marketing talent (either your first hire or a head of marketing), but you don’t have a background in marketing. What background do you look for? How do you set them up for success? We’ve seen the downward spiral of failure: your VCs/board giving bad a…
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Just like Content Marketing, growing an audience (organically) takes consistent investment and patience. How much time depends on your resources, strategy and - perhaps most importantly - how broad of a community you're trying to build. Plus a whole bunch of other questions and factors within those areas. We've learned a lot while building Don't Sa…
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In this episode, Devin Bramhall joins Ashley McGovern and Melissa Moody on their show, 2 Pizza Marketing. Like what you hear? Check out their show here: https://www.2pizzamarketing.com/ Resources: Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.dontsaycontent.com/ Created in partnership with Share Your Genius: https://www.shareyourgenius.com/…
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In this replay episode, we're revisiting lessons we've learned around failure. Did you just get fired? Spend a bunch of money on a marketing project or campaign that didn’t work? It can feel like marketing failures are happening today at a higher rate than ever before. Markets are changing; buyer’s processes, decision-making, and budgets are in flu…
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We’ve talked about a lot of things the past 17 episodes—so where have we landed among the strategies and thoughts and endless fodder around the “state of marketing” at the end of this season? Well, we can tell you we’re looking forward to some genuine human connection and fostering authentic content creation in the coming months more than we are in…
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Brian calls Breck O'Neill the "Forrest Gump" of the river community. They chat about Breck's adventure through the river running world, with some skiing and Hollywood sprinkled in. Enjoy Breck O'Neill!Big Adventures with Brian Dierker is produced with joy by Big AdventuresEntertainment LLC.Af Breck O'Neill, Brian Dierker, Margaret Knight, Bill Gloeckler, Gavin Boughner
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When times are changin' the rigidity of prescriptive playbooks simply don't work. Instead, companies need adaptive strategies that enable them to capitalize on timely opportunities (the term "growth hacks" comes to mind - with shame), and experiment constantly all while making progress towards their growth goals. Is this the marketing utopia we've …
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For all the hype around marketing right now, very little is actually happening besides Google solidifying its dictatorship over businesses trying to use the internet for some free marketing. Nothing is free anymore it seems, except the public displays of insanity by humans on the internet. It’s basically become an adult children’s book of attempted…
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4x CMO and current Chief Marketing Officer at Rembrand, Cory Treffiletti joined Yes, and Marketing for a deep dive into the ways AI is influencing his data-driven storytelling approach. (Plus, some tough love for execs, a look at his must-try AI tools, and a few life lessons we can all learn from.)Af Steve Pockross
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We’re not outspoken; we’re speaking…the truth. Our culture doesn’t support women in the workplace effectively (or in some cases, at all), and it doesn’t support the men who are trying to operate and lead equitably, either. But let’s give the bulk of the credit where it’s due: there’s a significant number of men and women who don’t support change ei…
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We had just recorded an episode about CMOs being anxious when Devin attended AudienePlus’s Golden Hour conference, where the IRL of stressed-out and disillusioned marketers was not only the prevailing topic but also the mood of attendees. This one-day event was a cathartic gathering of senior marketers eager to get their feelings out (then drink th…
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Experimentation is the Queen of Marketing Strategy these days as Martech continues to evolve, GenAI content becomes the new keyword stuffing and Google follows their hearts on SERPs in what seems like a midlife crisis-induced mushroom trip. No one knows what’s going to happen, so the best marketing strategy today involves testing & play to determin…
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Marketing is really just relationship-building at scale. But within that "scale" are activities that aren't 100% programmable. That's what a successful marketing mix looks like. But explaining that to stakeholders isn't always easy. As marketers we have to be both business strategists, human connectors and creatives. Today we're talking with Rachel…
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It’s 5 pm, do you know how your CMO is doing? You probably do, because they are anxiously wading through the same muck wondering how they are going to deliver consistent results while the foundation of their industry and macro environment are in tumult. The average day of a CMO right involves trying to strategically plan growth when even demand gen…
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What makes a marketing function successful today? There are new trends and old playbooks, but what marketers do startups really need? And what about bigger companies? We talk structure, success, and our big dreams for what it looks like in the future. Join us as we chat through what types of marketers we see rising to the top now, and how marketing…
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Richard Bangs is back! He joins Brian to share stories of first descents of rivers around the world and promote his new book, The Art of Living Dangerously. Enjoy Richard Bangs!Big Adventures with Brian Dierker is produced with joy by Big AdventuresEntertainment LLC.Af Gavin Boughner, Margaret Knight, Bill Gloeckler, Richard Bangs, Brian Dierker
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We talked about it way back in season 1. Today, what we’re interested in is: What personal brand currently does for individuals, particularly in a world where there's waning trust among institutions and executives? Personal branding is reputation. As tech moves faster, channels change more rapidly, you have to harness your reputation. Yes, even if …
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As CEO of Volume 9, a Denver-based marketing agency, Natalie Henley stays on the ball when it comes to marketing trends to follow (and which ones are just passing fads.) Tune in to hear how her agency approaches the AI revolution and prioritizes winning organic traffic for their clients in an ever-evolving landscape by keeping it old-school.…
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Ok, ok. So, we’ve all been wrapping our heads around how to use AI in our content marketing production and distribution for a bit now. It’s time we talk about it. In this episode, we dive into some bigger questions. How should you think about AI? How will it affect quality? What does AI change? And what will always remain? If you’re using AI, or if…
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As you ascend to higher levels in your career, your most valuable skill becomes navigating internal politics, policy, and process. It's not just about managing up when you work for large companies, it's about managing many senior stakeholders and the dynamics they bring with them. Competency goes a long way to getting the opportunities you want, th…
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Kelsey Pfendler is about to row a boat from California to Hawaii. She sits down with Brian to talk about the race, her team, and the incredible amount of prep work for such an adventure. Enjoy Kelsey Pfendler!Big Adventures with Brian Dierker is produced with joy by Big AdventuresEntertainment LLC.Af Kelsey Pfendler, Brian Dierker, Gavin Boughner, Bill Gloeckler, Margaret Knight
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This is the best episode we’ve ever recorded. Is it because we get into an in-depth spicy conversation (cough, argument, cough) about why everyone and their mother are measuring awareness and affinity marketing programs totally wrong? Is it because Margaret gets so heated that she drops f-bombs, and eventually Devin says something she RARELY ever s…
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No one taught us the new skills we needed when we became heads of marketing/VPs of marketing. All of a sudden, the majority of our work wasn't marketing itself. Not the external stuff. The majority of our work was executive alignment around the priorities and budget of marketing. And to do so in an exec team that - for the most part - didn't have a…
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Audacity - or as the kids call it: delulu. You need more of it in your life. In this episode, we explore our own relationship with audacity, how to cultivate it, why it’s so elusive to maintain, and why it’s so important at this (and any point) in your career. Resources: Subscribe to our newsletter: https://www.dontsaycontent.com/ Created in partne…
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Is marketing a creative or business role? We believe that marketing should be heavily involved in business strategy - not just creative strategy. But oftentimes, the marketing teams are positioned to support business growth rather than craft the strategy itself. In this episode, we explore how founders/CEOs can deploy their marketing function to fo…
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It’s a tough moment: You’re ready to hire marketing talent (either your first hire or a head of marketing), but you don’t have a background in marketing. What background do you look for? How do you set them up for success? We’ve seen the downward spiral of failure: your VCs/board giving bad advice, a lack of shared language around marketing roles a…
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Did you just get fired? Spend a bunch of money on a marketing project or campaign that didn’t work? It can feel like marketing failures are happening today at a higher rate than ever before. Markets are changing; buyer’s processes, decision-making, and budgets are in flux; and companies are switching up their marketing organizations and leadership.…
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Ty Magnin, CEO of Animalz, isn't interested in pretending to be Nostradamus. The marketing world is constantly evolving, so rather than try to predict the future, he's changing with it. Hear how he and the Animalz team are adjusting their strategies for success, finding inventive ways to incorporate AI into their workflows, and exploring distributi…
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Here's a bonus episode from Devin's conversation with Joei Chan on her post, Good Boss, Bad Boss. It's a meaty one where she share lots of secrets about being a good and bad boss, and stories from her time as the boss of all bosses (CEO). Also, season 4 is dropping soon! We're kicking off season 4 on 2/6 with a live show on YouTube. You won't want …
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Have you missed us?! Don’t Say Content season 4 is coming back on February 6th, and we’d love for you join us—here on the feed or live, on Youtube. We’re starting the season off on YouTube live on February 6th at noon ET. But don’t worry, we’ll drop the live show on the podcast feed if you can’t make it. Wanna join us live? Check out our YouTube ch…
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Bonus episode time! Before season 4 drops, enjoy this bonus episode where Margaret joined Ramli John's Marketing Powerups podcast to talk about her strategic brand flywheel. Like what you hear? Check out Ramli's podcast here: https://marketingpowerups.com/podcast/ For more from Devin + Margaret, head to dontsaycontent.com. Created in partnership wi…
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Dave Ganci sits down with Brian Dierker and George Bain to chat about his life and desert survival. They explore how he got started in outdoor adventuring, including his time on a tuna boat and climbing in the Grand Canyon. Enjoy Dave Ganci!Big Adventures with Brian Dierker is produced with joy by Big AdventuresEntertainment LLC.…
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Co-founder of the Content Marketing Institute, current Chief Troublemaker at The Content Advisory, and author of Content Marketing Strategy: Harness the Power of Your Brand’s Voice, Robert Rose is a marketing powerhouse. This bona fide industry legend digs into how we should be using AI to create profitable workflows, the impact of AI on search and…
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