Why is it that products are so hard to develop and deliver? How can we truly deliver value with so many different variables that can affect the outcome? We are Sander Dur and Jim Sammons, professional consultants and trainers who support organizations in their pursuit of creating valuable products. Passionate about helping the community and practitioners apply the theory many authors and thought leaders bring to the industry, we started this podcast to make these concepts more accessible. Th ...
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#115 Hosts against Humanity: A tale of Scrum, Smurfs & big decisions - Part 1
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This episode features an interview with the hosts of Mastering Agility who discuss their personal and professional journeys into Agile. Sander and Jim share how they transitioned into the Scrum Master role from various career paths. Both highlight the importance of adaptability, continuous learning, and servant leadership in their Agile work. Jim i…
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#114 - Agile HR: From Managing to Empowering Employees with Riina Hellstrom - Part 2
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Summary In this conversation, Sander Dur and his guest Riina Hellstrom explore the evolving role of HR in organizations, emphasizing the shift from traditional "resource management" to a more agile, empowering approach. They discuss the importance of adopting an agile mindset in HR practices, the impact of AI on the workforce, and the necessity for…
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#114 - Agile HR: From Managing to Empowering Employees with Riina Hellstrom - Part 1
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Summary In this conversation, Sander Dur and his guest Riina Hellstrom explore the evolving role of HR in organizations, emphasizing the shift from traditional "resource management" to a more agile, empowering approach. They discuss the importance of adopting an agile mindset in HR practices, the impact of AI on the workforce, and the necessity for…
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#113 The end of the Goldrush? The Agile Crisis with Jurgen Appelo - Part 2
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"The way we have been working for the last 20 years with standard frameworks and methodologies, we're going to leave behind." Summary In this conversation Sander Dur, Jim Sammons and their guest Jurgen Appelo explore the impact of the current crisis on the agile community and the need for adaptation and learning new skills. They discuss the concept…
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#113 The end of the Goldrush? The Agile Crisis with Jurgen Appelo - Part 1
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"The way we have been working for the last 20 years with standard frameworks and methodologies, we're going to leave behind." Summary In this conversation Sander Dur, Jim Sammons and their guest Jurgen Appelo explore the impact of the current crisis on the agile community and the need for adaptation and learning new skills. They discuss the concept…
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#112 The Product Operating Model with Chris Jones - Part 2
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summary In this conversation, hosts Sander Dur and Jim Sammons discuss various topics including the impact of books, the secrecy of Apple, consumer behavior, and the product operating model with their guest Chris Jones. They explore the concept of the product operating model, which focuses on shifting from output-oriented approaches to outcome-orie…
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#112 The Product Operating Model with Chris Jones - Part 1
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summary In this conversation, hosts Sander Dur and Jim Sammons discuss various topics including the impact of books, the secrecy of Apple, consumer behavior, and the product operating model with their guest Chris Jones. They explore the concept of the product operating model, which focuses on shifting from output-oriented approaches to outcome-orie…
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#111 Raging Against Fake Agile with Gillie & Marge
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In this episode, the Mastering Agility Podcast-team discusses various misunderstandings and misapplications of Agile practices, particularly how Agile is often reduced to a set of tools or deadlines rather than its core principles of flexibility and value-driven work. Key points include: Agile can be misused to push unfinished work or prioritize sp…
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#110 The Agile Product Operating Model with Simon Reindl & Martin Hinshelwood
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summary The conversation explores the challenges and misconceptions surrounding agile methodologies, particularly Scrum, and the need for a common understanding and language in the industry. The guests discuss the fatigue and disillusionment with agile and the constant influx of new buzzwords. They emphasize the importance of focusing on core princ…
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#109 Organizing the Scan Agile Conference with Kjell de Ruiter & Eliska Cejpova
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Summary The conversation revolves around the Agile24 conference and the feelings associated with its end. The Sander and his guests talk about the biggest concerns in the run-up to the conference and the importance of risk management and preparation. They reflect on improvements for next year, particularly in terms of party and networking. They dis…
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#108 The Silent Killer of Agile with Alex & Sally Sloley
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Summary The conversation covers karaoke, the Finnish Agile community, bad agile practices, agile transformations, fear, and personal advice. Sander Dur and his guests Sally and Aley Sloley discuss their dislike for karaoke and share stories about karaoke experiences. They praise the Finnish Agile community for their commitment and investment in cre…
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The conversation revolves around the concept of value and its various interpretations. The hosts discuss the importance of defining and measuring value, the role of quality in delivering value, and the challenges faced by organizations in prioritizing value. They also touch on the impact of short-sightedness, the rise of disruptive competitors, and…
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#106 Untrapping Product Teams with David Pereira
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Summary In this episode, David shares his experience of writing his book 'Untrapping Product Teams' and discusses the challenges and traps that product teams often face. He talks about the importance of resilience and a growth mindset for product managers. David emphasizes the need for a balance between discovery and delivery, stating that discover…
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#105 The Future of Agile with Jose Casal
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In this conversation, the Sander Dur and Jose Casal discuss finding happiness in everyday life and the importance of incremental achievements. They also explore the role of leaders as organizational gardeners and the need to create environments for people to thrive. The definition of business agility is examined, along with the future of Agile and …
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#104 The Happiness Blueprint with Antoni Tzavelas
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SummaryIn this conversation, Anthony shares his insights on happiness and its impact on individuals and teams. He discusses the challenges he faced in his life and how he overcame them to find happiness. Anthony emphasizes the importance of self-reflection, empathy, and a positive mindset in fostering happiness. He also introduces the concept of th…
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#103 Lean Portfolio Management and OKRs with Yuval Yeret
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Summary In this conversation, Jim, Sander, and their guest Yuval discuss various topics including SAFE, lean portfolio management, and OKRs. They explore the misconceptions and polarizing nature of SAFE, the difference between a traditional PMO and a lean portfolio, and the challenges of managing different ways of working within a global organizati…
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#102 "No Matter What" with Agavni Jessaijan
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Summary In this conversation, Sander Dur and Agavni Jessaijan discuss her diverse creative skills and her journey to self-employment. They explore the importance of communication and the belief that everything is possible. Agavni shares her experiences as an entrepreneur and the challenges she faced during the pandemic. They also discuss her partic…
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#101 Fred Deichler on The Agile Coaching Growth Wheel
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Summary In this conversation, Fred reflects on his experience speaking at Scan Agile and shares his biggest lesson learned. He also discusses the Agile Coaching Growth Wheel and the need for unifying standards in the agile coaching profession. The conversation explores the difference between agile coaches and scrum masters and the importance of the…
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#100 Denise Tilles on Product Operations
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Summary Denise discusses the concept of product operations and its role in helping product managers make faster and better quality decisions. Product operations involves providing PMs with the necessary inputs and support to set strategy, prioritize, create roadmaps, and collaborate effectively with stakeholders. It differs from traditional agile a…
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S07 E08 Cliff Hazel and Chris Stone on Going for Chaos
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Summary The conversation explores the overuse of the phrase 'it depends' and the importance of providing context and honesty in responses. The speakers discuss the value of understanding the starting point and the direction one is moving in. They also emphasize the need to optimize for value rather than efficiency and consider the broader impacts a…
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S07 E07 Evelien Hölsken on Free A Girl
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Summary Evelien Hölsken, founder of the Free A GIrl Foundation, discusses her work to end sexual exploitation of children. She shares her journey from a commercial background to the nonprofit sector and explains how she was inspired to start her own foundation. Evelien discusses the challenges of fundraising and the need for transparency in the non…
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Summary In this conversation, Joe Krebs joins us at the ScanAgile24 conference in Helsinki. He discusses the concept of Agile Kata and its role in continuous improvement. He shares his passion for this topic and how it originated from his experience with agile transformations. Joe emphasizes the importance of challenging existing processes and habi…
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S07 E05 Esther Derby on Gearing Positive Change
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Summary This conversation explores the concept of empathy and its importance in various contexts. Esther Derby gives valuable insights into defining empathy, the possibility of having too much empathy, and practical tips for practicing empathy. The conversation also delves into the role of empathy in product design, overcoming barriers to empathy, …
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S07 E04 Amber Vanderburg on Communicating Technical Ideas to non-Technical Audiences
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Summary In this conversation, Amber shares insights on leading change and higher performance within teams. She emphasizes the importance of inspiring action rather than commanding action, drawing parallels between sports teams and product development teams. Amber also discusses the power of debriefing and learning from failure, as well as the need …
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S07 E03 Chris Williams on the Art of Simplicity
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The conversation explores the concept of simplicity and its challenges in various contexts. It delves into the importance of feedback, organizational and cultural change, and the friction between doing the thing right and doing the right thing. The difficulty of simplicity is discussed, along with the power of simple solutions. The conversation exp…
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S07 E02 Tom Siebeneicher on Our Journey in Public Speaking
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Summary In this conversation, Sander and Don discuss their journey in public speaking and share their experiences and insights. They talk about how they started doing public speaking, the challenges they faced, and the lessons they learned along the way. They emphasize the importance of having a supportive network, being open to feedback, and conti…
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S07 E01 Gojko Adzic on Specification By Example
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Summary In this episode, Goiko shares his experiences and insights on visualizing specifications, writing Specification by Example, and solving communication problems in software development. He discusses the challenges and patterns in the adoption of Spec by Example and the importance of identifying bottlenecks and visualizing problems. Goiko also…
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S06 E19 David Asch on the Agile Enterprise
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SummaryIn this conversation, David Ash discusses his book, The Agile Enterprise, and his experiences applying Agile principles across companies. He shares his initial hesitation about writing the book and his journey of self-discovery and overcoming imposter syndrome. David emphasizes the importance of leaders who think differently and the need for…
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S06 E18 Johannes Geske and Stephen Sykes on ScrumMatch
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Summary In this conversation, Sander Dur and his guests discuss the biggest lessons learned during the week and the importance of user feedback in the release strategy. They introduce Scrum Match, a platform that connects companies with true Scrum Masters who can deliver business value. They highlight the need for true Scrum Masters who can use Scr…
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S06 E17 Dan Balcauski on Pricing Strategies
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Summary The conversation explores various aspects of pricing strategies, including benefits framing, pricing orientations, value-based pricing, and the challenges associated with it. The importance of regularly reviewing pricing and making incremental changes is emphasized. The fear of pricing conversations and risk mitigation strategies are discus…
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S06 E16 Fred Deichler on Zelda's Guide to Agile
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Summary In this conversation, Sander, Jim and their guest Fred Deichler discuss various topics related to public speaking, conferences, and agile practices. They explore the importance of creating a positive work environment and advocating for clear direction and autonomy in teams. Fred shares his journey as a speaker and the nervousness he still e…
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S06 E15 Becky Savill on Workplace Learning for Human Beings
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Summary In this conversation, Becky Savill discusses her recently launched book and the importance of workplace learning for humans. She shares her experience of unpacking the physical copy of her book and the pride she felt in achieving this milestone. Becky emphasizes the need for self-directed learning and the limitations of traditional learning…
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S06 E14 Teresa Torres on Leading Products through Discovery
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Summary In this conversation, Teresa Torres discusses the importance of product discovery and how it differs from product development. She emphasizes the need to focus on building the right things and highlights the value of talking to customers regularly. Torres provides practical tips for engaging customers in the discovery process, including how…
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S06 E13 Cliff Hazell on Lessons from working at Spotify
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SummaryThe conversation covers topics such as dealing with remote teams, clear communication in remote work, the future of remote work, managing information overload, maintaining structure in communication tools, the importance of facilitation in meetings, balancing autonomy and alignment, the danger of focusing on shiny new tools, the shift from o…
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S06 E12 Omnipresence and Needing to be Perfect
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Summary In this second part of the conversation, Jim and Sander discuss their holiday plans and reflect on the highlights of the podcast in 2023. They also share their dream guests for future episodes and discuss the importance of understanding root causes in problem-solving. They explore how Scrum Masters can help teams become more effective and t…
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S06 E11 2023 Reflections and Finding Root Causes
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SummaryIn this conversation, Jim and Sander discuss their holiday plans and reflect on the highlights of the podcast in 2023. They also share their dream guests for future episodes and discuss the importance of understanding root causes in problem-solving. They explore how Scrum Masters can help teams become more effective and the need to build env…
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S06 E10 Dave Snowden on Organizing for Emergence
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In this conversation, Dave Snowden discusses various topics related to complexity, agility, and decision-making. He shares his experiences with travel and speaking engagements, emphasizing the importance of listening to the audience and adapting his presentations accordingly. Dave highlights patterns and cynicism in the Agile community, cautioning …
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S06 E09 Starting with Scrum and forming your Scrum Team
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S06 E08 Unlocking Business Agility with EBM with Patricia Kong, Ryan Ripley, Todd Miller, and Kurt Bittner
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S06 E07 Visualisation Superpowers and the Importance of Testing with Brendan Gardner
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S06 E06 Driving Value with Sprint Goals with Maarten Dalmijn
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S06 E05 Making Change Last and a Thousand Tangents
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S06 E03 Public Speaking with Artur Margonari part 2
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S06 E03 Public Speaking with Artur Margonari part I
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S06 E02 Hot takes with Gillie and Sabrina
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S06 E01 Forever Employable with Jeff Gothelf
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S05 E11 Dealing with scattered SDLC processes
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S05 E10 A Mystery Koala guest and the R Word
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S05 E09 Ron Eringa, Tony Hinkley, Stas Pavlov, and Jim Sammons live at Scrum.org's Face2Face in London
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