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Learn how to build a simple estate plan and lend or repay family money without hurting your relationships. What’s the first thing to do when creating an estate plan? What’s the smartest way to handle loans between friends or family? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola break down estate-planning basics like wills, revocable trusts, living wills/advance healthcare directives, and durable powers of attorney — tools that can ensure your wishes are carried out and help your loved ones avoid probate. They also share when to update your documents, how beneficiary designations can override your will, and three simple to-dos to get started without feeling overwhelmed. Then, mortgage and student loans writer Kate Wood joins Sean and Elizabeth to answer a listener’s question about paying a loan back to her parents. They explore how family loans and lending circles work, why it’s important to put agreements in writing (and when notarizing helps), and the impact informal loans can have on your credit. They also weigh different ways to set money aside, comparing high-yield savings accounts with taxable brokerage accounts invested in ETFs and considering timelines, growth potential, and tax trade-offs. Want us to review your budget? Fill out this form — completely anonymously if you want — and we might feature your budget in a future segment! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScK53yAufsc4v5UpghhVfxtk2MoyooHzlSIRBnRxUPl3hKBig/viewform?usp=header In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: estate planning, will vs trust, revocable trust, living will, durable power of attorney, healthcare proxy, advance healthcare directive, probate explained, beneficiary designation vs will, update beneficiaries after marriage, how often to update a will, intestate meaning, avoid probate, family loan agreement, lend money to family safely, informal lending, lending circle, saving circle, notarized loan contract, pros and cons of family loans, protect relationships when lending money, credit score and informal loans, high-yield savings accounts, taxable brokerage accounts, ETF basics for beginners, repaying parents for college, fiduciary roles in estate planning, power dynamics of lending to friends, writing a repayment schedule, when to use a trust for minors, and retitling assets into a trust. To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email podcast@nerdwallet.com . Like what you hear? Please leave us a review and tell a friend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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1 428. How to Fall in Love with Questions with Elizabeth Weingarten 1:00:00
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Not knowing the answer can feel unsettling, but what if uncertainty was actually something to embrace? In this episode, Michael sits down with Elizabeth Weingarten to explore that idea. Elizabeth, whose work spans top publications and research programs, shares insights from her book How to Fall in Love with Questions: A New Way to Thrive in Times of Uncertainty . Their conversation unpacks why we often resist uncertainty and how curiosity, community, and authenticity can transform the way we approach life’s biggest unknowns. She also reflects on the role of genuine self-expression in relationships, inviting listeners to see how asking better questions might open the door to a more fulfilling life. Listen and Learn: Why certain uncertainties unsettle us most, and how our brains and biology shape our struggle to live with the unknown Elizabeth’s powerful "question tree" metaphor that categorizes the types of questions we ask in life, from quick-answer "peach" questions to lifelong "heartwood" questions, and how letting go of "dead leaf" questions helps us grow How our search for quick answers can keep us stuck in uncertainty—and why learning to sit with unanswerable questions and ask better ones is key to real growth and self-understanding Embracing open-ended questions instead of binary ones for deeper self-understanding, growth, and freedom from the need for control What it truly means to “live” and “love” life’s big questions , moving beyond the shallow advice to “embrace uncertainty” and instead learning how our questions can guide growth, clarity, and connection to our future selves Recognizing and refining the right questions in your life, ones that lead you back to your values, open new possibilities, and move you forward instead of getting stuck in fear, “shoulds,” or rumination Resources: Elizabeth’s Book, How to Fall in Love with Questions: A New Way to Thrive in Times of Uncertainty: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780063335134 Elizabeth’s Website: www.elizabethweingarten.com Elizabeth’s Substack: Time Travel for Beginners Yael’s Article: How Practical Wisdom Helps Us Cope with Radical Uncertainty (By Yael Schonbrun and Barry Schwartz) About Elizabeth Weingarten Elizabeth Weingarten is a journalist and applied behavioral scientist who works at the intersection of science and storytelling. She has been part of the editorial staffs of The Atlantic , Slate , and Qatar Today , and also served as managing editor of Behavioral Scientist . Her writing has appeared in outlets including The Atlantic , Slate , CNN , Financial Times , Harvard Business Review , and TIME . Beyond journalism, she has led research programs at the think tank New America, the consultancy ideas42, and the tech companies Torch and Udemy. Elizabeth lives in Northern California with her husband and son. You can learn more about her work at www.elizabethweingarten.com . Related Episodes: 188. Unwinding Anxiety with Judson Brewer 349. The Hunger Habit with Judson Brewer 329. The Power of Curiosity with Scott Shigeoka 422. Mindwise with Nicholas Epley 303. Both/And Thinking with Marianne Lewis See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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1 427. Raising Kids with Food Allergies with Tamara Hubbard 59:48
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If you’re a parent navigating the ups and downs of your child’s food allergies, you know firsthand how anxiety can sneak in, whether it’s worrying about safety at school, birthday parties, or just trying to give your child some independence. In this episode of Psychologists Off the Clock , Tamara Hubbard joins Emily to talk about her new book, May Contain Anxiety: Managing the Overwhelm of Parenting Children with Food Allergies . Their conversation doesn’t just stop at allergies, though; they dive into the bigger picture of parenting with anxiety and uncertainty and explore how anxiety, while a completely normal human experience, can sometimes take over if we don’t keep it in check. Tune in with us for practical strategies to help parents move away from over-controlling tendencies and toward building skills and confidence in their kids. Listen and Learn: Understanding the medical and emotional side of food allergies from what actually happens in the body, why they create such high anxiety for parents, and how uncertainty around reactions fuels guilt and fear Balancing fear with perspective and the difference between everyday vigilance and anxiety that takes over The “certainty trap” many allergy parents fall into, why control seeking feels protective but actually creates burnout, conflict, and limits a child’s growth, and how shifting from control to skill building can better support both parents and kids The “over-avoidance trap” food allergy parents can fall into, how anxiety can push families to restrict more than is medically necessary, and why finding a realistic, personalized sense of “safe enough” (with support from an allergist) is key to breaking free from constant fear Practical strategies for allergy parents to balance safety with living fully by shifting from fear-driven "what if" thinking to action-focused "if then" plans The “Goldilocks principle” for food allergy parenting and finding the just right balance of caution and calm that keeps kids safe without overwhelming anxiety How parents can start building confidence and safety skills in young children with food allergies (or other health conditions) from an early age, setting the foundation for independence and calm navigation as they grow Why the middle childhood years can help kids build self-advocacy and take ownership of their allergy care, so they are ready for adolescence How parents balance safety with flexibility can shape teens’ confidence and independence in managing food allergies while keeping anxiety in check Resources: Tamara’s Book, May Contain Anxiety: Managing the Overwhelm of Parenting Children with Food Allergies: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781421449579 Tamara’s Websites: https://www.foodallergycounselor.com/ and https://www.tamarahubbardlcpc.com/ Connect with Tamara on Socials: @FoodAllergyCounselor and @TherapistTamara . About Tamara Hubbard With more than 20 years of experience and a marriage and family therapy degree, Tamara Hubbard, MA, LCPC is a licensed clinical professional counselor helping women and parents of children with food allergies find their “just right” balance between feeling overwhelmed and living fully. Tamara created The Food Allergy Counselor in 2018 to fill a much needed resource gap by offering evidence-based food allergy anxiety management, mindset, and parenting content. She also founded the Academy of Food Allergy Counseling and its Food Allergy Counseling Directory , and currently serves as its Chief Advisor. An active allied health member of professional allergy and immunology organizations, Tamara is a national speaker and holds advisory roles within the allergy community. Finally, her first book, May Contain Anxiety: Managing the Overwhelm of Parenting Children with Food Allergies with Johns Hopkins University Press comes out September 30th, 2025. Related Episodes: 424. Modern Anxiety with Noelle McWard Aquino 319. Autonomy-Supportive Parenting with the AMAZING Emily Edlynn 266. Future Tense with Tracy Dennis-Tiwary 260. Health Anxiety with Karen Lynn Cassiday 253. Free Range Kids with Lenore Skenazy 222. Living With Food Allergies with Tamara Hubbard 94. Parenthood in the Age of Fear with Kim Brooks See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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1 426. College Mental Health with Colleen Ehrnstrom, Audrey Gilfillan, and Alison West 1:06:55
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College life can be exciting, but it’s also full of unique challenges that can really take a toll on mental health. In this episode, Debbie sits down with Colleen Ehrnstrom , Audrey Gilfillan , and Alison West to break down what’s really going on with students’ mental well-being. They talk about the ups and downs of transitions, gaining independence, and handling academic pressure, all while navigating bigger societal stressors like the pandemic. The conversation highlights why it’s so important to have mental health support built right into academic departments, and the guests share practical tips that both students and faculty can use. You’ll also hear about topics like college culture expectations, the Dunning-Kruger effect, imposter feelings, and why showing yourself self-compassion and understanding your emotions matters. By the end, you’ll come away with insights that can help anyone in a college community foster better mental health and overall well-being. Listen and Learn: Why college is such a challenging transition for students, who must create structure, discover their values, and learn through mistakes while adapting to new freedoms and pressures Understanding individual stress matters in college counseling, which can help normalize challenges and guide appropriate mental health support How young adulthood is a powerful time for growth Embracing uncertainty and connecting through shared human experiences helps us navigate overwhelming and unpredictable times Embedding mental health clinicians directly in university departments helps faculty support students effectively, bridging academic and emotional needs Understanding and “decompiling” your thoughts and emotions helps you work with them instead of against them Why the imposter phenomenon is widespread, especially among high achievers and those stepping outside their comfort zone, and how comparing your inner doubts to others’ outward confidence can intensify it True growth comes from building competence, not chasing confidence, and feeling uncomfortable is part of the learning process Tips for navigating college, including managing your expectations, giving yourself grace for mistakes, seeking support when needed, and starting small with healthy habits Resources: Decompile Your Mind: An Engineer’s Guide to Thoughts and Emotions: https://www.amazon.com/Decompile-Your-Mind-Engineers-Thoughts/dp/B0DPXB17MV Connect with Colleen Ehrnstrom, Audrey Gilfillan, and Alison West https://www.colorado.edu/counseling/about-caps/our-providers/colleen-ehrnstrom https://www.colorado.edu/counseling/about-caps/our-providers/audrey-gilfillan https://www.colorado.edu/counseling/about-caps/our-providers/alison-west Imposter No More: Overcome Self-Doubt and Imposterism to Cultivate a Successful Career: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781538724804 About Dr. Colleen Ehrnstrom Dr. Colleen Ehrnstrom, PhD is a licensed clinical psychologist and one of the managers of the Embedded Program at the Counseling and Psychiatric Services (CAPS) at the University of Colorado Boulder. She specializes in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and enjoys working with college students, supporting their mental health during a critical time of personal and academic development. She is the co-author of End the Insomnia Struggle: A Step-by-Step Guide to Help You Get to Sleep and Stay Asleep and regularly presents and trains on ACT and behavioral sleep strategies. Dr. Ehrnstrom is dedicated to supporting mental health through evidence-based, mindfulness-informed care. About Audrey Gilfillan Audrey Gilfillan is a licensed professional counselor and works as an Embedded Therapist in the College of Engineering and Applied Science at the University of Colorado at Boulder. With a background in academic coaching, career counseling, and college mental health, Audrey specializes supporting college students as they navigate the intersection of their academic goals and mental health. Audrey co-authored Decompile Your Mind: An Engineer’s Guide to Thoughts and Emotions . She co-founded Applied Wellness Initiatives to help educators and managers effectively support mental health and performance in the workplace. About Alison West Alison West is a licensed professional counselor and addiction specialist who works as an Embedded Therapist in the College of Engineering and Applied Science at CU Boulder. Prior to working in higher education, Alison worked in community mental health, providing direct support through ongoing therapy, crisis response, and case management. Alison is passionate about supporting young adults as they navigate the challenges of an ever-changing world. She is the co-author of Decompile Your Mind: An Engineer’s Guide to Thoughts and Emotions and the co-founder of Applied Wellness Initiatives. She finds fulfillment in helping professionals bring mental health awareness and practices into their work and academic communities. Related Episodes: 7. Insomnia: Strategies to Stop Struggling with Sleep with Alisha Brosse 189. Imposter Syndrome with Jill and Debbie 321. Imposter No More with Jill Stoddard 274. Quarterlife: The Search for Self in Early Adulthood with Satya Doyle Byock – Psychologists Off the Clock 324. Toxic Achievement Culture with Jennifer Wallace 303. Both/And Thinking with Marianne Lewis See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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1 425. Can You Change Your Personality? With Olga Khazan 57:13
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Can you truly change your personality in ways that make your life feel fuller and more in line with who you want to be? In this episode of Psychologists Off the Clock , Jill sits down with Olga Khazan , author of Me But Better , to explore that question in a way that feels relatable and inspiring. Olga shares her journey of becoming more outgoing and less anxious, mixing scientific insights with honest reflections on the challenges she faced, showing that real change is possible and something you can actively pursue. They also explore the Big Five personality traits and how intentional shifts in your personality can boost your happiness and overall well-being. Olga offers practical strategies you can start using right away and reminds you that the goal is not to impress anyone else but to create a version of yourself that feels healthier, more authentic, and more satisfying to live with every day. Listen and Learn: How personality, once thought to be fixed, can actually change over time How personality is shaped by both genetics and environment The Big Five personality model—what each trait means, how factors like conscientiousness overlap with neurodivergence such as ADHD, cultural caveats to the model, and how personality can shift over time through intentional habits and mindset How practicing new behaviors, like being more extroverted, can expand your authentic self rather than diminish it Why stepping outside of your comfort zone, even if it feels “inauthentic” at first, is actually part of growth, showing how personality is fluid How mindfulness, meditation, and acceptance practices can reduce anxiety and neuroticism The Personality Assessor Test and why results can sometimes surprise us, and how to embrace both strengths and limitations while exploring change or acceptance through openness, flexibility, and values Resources: Olga’s Book, Me, But Better: The Science and Promise of Personality Change: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781668012543 Olga’s Website: Olgakhazan.com; https://olgakhazan.com/ Connect with Olga on Social Media: Instagram: @olganator, https://www.instagram.com/olganator/ X: https://x.com/olgakhazan Olga’s Substack: https://olgakhazan.substack.com/ Find More of Olga’s Writing at https://www.theatlantic.com/ Free Personality Test: https://www.personalityassessor.com/ About Olga Khazan Olga Khazan is a staff writer for The Atlantic and the author of Weird: The Power of Being an Outsider in an Insider World and ME, BUT BETTER: The Science and Promise of Personality Change. She has also written for The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, Vox, and other publications. She is a two-time recipient of the International Reporting Project’s Journalism Fellowship and winner of the 2017 National Headliner Award for Magazine Online Writing. She lives with her husband and son in Northern Virginia. Related Episodes: 77. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy with Jill Stoddard 102. A Liberated Mind with Steven Hayes 112. Nature vs. Nurture: Why Temperament Matters with Debbie and Yael 343. Heartbreak with Florence Williams 347. Job Changes & Career Pivots with Paula Brand 363. Worrying Is Optional with Ben Eckstein 385. Oliver Burkeman on Embracing Your Limitations See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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1 424. Modern Anxiety with Noelle McWard Aquino 1:06:07
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Anxiety often feels overwhelming, but at its core, it’s your mind and body working hard to protect you. In this episode, therapist and author of Anxiety Unpacked , Noelle McWard Aquino , unpacks the complex nature of modern anxiety, from the body’s nervous system responses to the thought patterns that fuel it. Noelle introduces her framework of three root causes: catastrophizing, control, and distorted beliefs, and explains how these show up in daily life. You’ll learn how to tell the difference between anxiety and intuition, and why getting more comfortable with uncertainty can help you build real resilience. You’ll also pick up practical tools like breathwork, reframing distorted beliefs, and focusing on your values so you can navigate anxiety with more clarity and confidence. Listen and Learn: A fresh, accessible perspective on anxiety that goes beyond diagnoses, showing how it’s a universal human experience with practical tools to help anyone navigate it Why anxiety is not a personal failing but an understandable response to today’s constant threats, information overload, and technology-driven pressures How to reframe anxiety, not as a flaw to eliminate but as a signal to honor, by creating space for it, discerning facts from “what if” stories, and guiding it toward purposeful action rooted in values, capacity, and connection The five universal truths of anxiety How to tell the difference between anxiety’s fear-driven, questioning voice and intuition’s calm, steady, and certain inner knowing The three root causes of anxiety: catastrophizing, control, and distorted beliefs, and how understanding these patterns helps address anxiety at its root for lasting change Resources: Noelle’s book, Anxiety Unpacked: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781960876898 Noelle’s Website: https://noellemcwardaquino.com/ Noelle’s Psychology Today article: When Anxiety Makes Sense : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unpacking-anxiety/202506/when-anxiety-makes-sense Connect with Noelle on Social Media: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noelle-mcward-192473b https://www.instagram.com/noellemcwardaquino/ About Noelle McWard Aquino Noelle McWard Aquino is a Chicago-based therapist who specializes in the treatment of anxiety disorders. She is the author of Anxiety Unpacked: Discover Your Type and Recover Your Peace , a bestselling book that helps readers identify and work with the specific patterns driving their anxiety. Her work has been featured in publications including Psychology Today and Psychotherapy Networker . Noelle speaks regularly to both clinical and general audiences, training therapists in her framework for understanding anxiety and helping individuals develop more effective, compassionate responses to it. Related Episodes: 334. Our Polyvagal World with Stephen & Seth Porges 313. ACT-Informed Exposure for Anxiety with Brian Pilecki and Brain Thompson 250. Anxiety and Perfectionism with Clarissa Ong 177. Mind-Body Practices for Stress and Ovewrhelm with Rebekkah LaDyne 188. Unwinding Anxiety with Judson Brewer See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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1 423. Collective Edge with Colin Fisher 1:09:23
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Why do some groups spark energy and creativity while others feel draining and tense? Taking on this topic, we sit down with Colin Fisher , the author of The Collective Edge: Unlocking the Secret Power of Groups . We dig into what really sets groups apart from one-on-one partnerships, how social norms and psychological safety shape the way groups function, and why synergy can feel so unpredictable yet incredibly powerful. Colin shares stories and research from his book, busting some common myths about group dynamics, the risks of trying to “sort” people into roles, and how relaunching a team can reset unhealthy patterns. From jazz improvisation to Nobel Prize-winning teams, this conversation is packed with insights and practical takeaways for anyone who wants to get the most out of working and living with others. Listen and Learn: What makes a group different from a one-on-one relationship, and why does that difference matter? Why relying on “sorting hat” thinking like personality tests or rigid categories can limit group success and fuel unhelpful divisions Why we often overlook the power of groups Can you spot the invisible norms shaping your group before they push you toward extreme or unhealthy behaviors? How can bringing in new perspectives or encouraging psychological safety keep your group balanced and open-minded? What is psychological safety? How can groups achieve that magical sense of synergy? Creating high-performing teams Relaunching groups to reset unhealthy patterns and improve team dynamics Resources: Colin’s Book: The Collective Edge: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780593715345 Colins Website: https://colinmfisher.com/ Colin’s Substack: https://colinmfisher.substack.com/ Connect with Colin on Social Media: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colinmfisher?originalSubdomain=uk https://www.instagram.com/trumpetfisher/ Undoing Project by Michael Lewis: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780393354775 Work, Parent, Thrive by Yael Schonbrun: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781611809657 Social Intelligence Test: https://socialintelligence.labinthewild.org/mite/ About Colin Fisher Since his days as a professional jazz trumpet player, Colin Fisher has been fascinated by group dynamics. As Associate Professor of Organizations and Innovation at University College London's School of Management, Colin’s research has uncovered the hidden processes of helping groups and teams in situations requiring creativity, improvisation, and complex decision-making. He has written about group dynamics for media outlets including BBC, Forbes, Harvard Business Review, NPR, and The Times . Related Episodes 215. How to Change with Katy Milkman 234. The Power of Us with Dominic Packer See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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Think about the times you’ve assumed someone’s behavior revealed exactly what they were thinking. Nicholas Epley , our guest for this episode, explains this as correspondence bias and, through his book Mindwise , teaches us about the concept of correspondence bias and explains how we often believe that a person's actions correspond directly to their mental state. You’ll hear about his research into social cognition and how it reveals that while humans are generally adept at reading others, we frequently overestimate our accuracy. The episode also covers practical experiments on how engaging with strangers can significantly boost our happiness, despite our fears and misconceptions, and the importance of curiosity in overcoming social anxieties and making positive first impressions. Listen and Learn: How our unique “sixth sense” of mind reading, our ability to understand, predict, and connect with others’ invisible thoughts, shapes human connection and survival Why our ability to read other people’s minds is far less accurate than we think, and what makes understanding others such a difficult challenge Why we often overestimate how well we understand those closest to us, and how even long-term partners are not as accurate at reading each other’s thoughts and feelings as they believe What drives our brains to form first impressions in an instant, how overconfidence shapes the way we read others, and why moment-to-moment cues like facial expressions play a bigger role in social interactions than we often realize? How can you make a great first impression without overthinking body language or tricks, simply by staying curious and genuinely interested in the person you’re talking to? How correspondence bias makes us assume people’s actions reflect their true thoughts and feelings, why this can lead to misjudgments, and how showing confidence, curiosity, or kindness can positively influence how others respond to you Can striking up a conversation with a stranger boost happiness more than staying to yourself, even though we usually expect the interaction to go badly? Resources: Mindwise: Why We Misunderstand What Others Think, Believe, Feel, and Want: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780307743565 Nicholas’ website: https://www.nicholasepley.com/ About Nicholas Epley Nicholas Epley is the John Templeton Keller Distinguished Service Professor of Behavior Science and Director of the Center for Decision Research at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business. He studies social cognition—how thinking people think about other thinking people—to understand why smart people so routinely misunderstand each other. He teaches an ethics and well-being course to MBA students called Designing a Good Life. His research has been featured by the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, CNN, Wired, and National Public Radio, among many others, and has been funded by the National Science Foundation and the Templeton Foundation. He has been awarded the 2008 Theoretical Innovation Award from the Society for Personality and Social Psychology, the 2011 Distinguished Scientific Award for Early Career Contribution to Psychology from the American Psychological Association, the 2015 Book Prize for the Promotion of Social and Personality Science, and the 2018 Career Trajectory Award from the Society for Experimental Social Psychology. Epley was named a "professor to watch" by the Financial Times, one of the "World's Best 40 under 40 Business School Professors" by Poets and Quants, and one of the 100 Most Influential in Business Ethics by Ethisphere. He is the author of Mindwise: How We Understand What Others Think, Believe, Feel, and Want, and of a forthcoming book to be published in the fall of 2026 tentatively titled, Dare to connect Related Episodes 413. Validate with Caroline Fleck 393. Supercommunicators with Charles Duhigg 374. Developing and Deepening Connections with Adam Dorsay 360. The Laws of Connection with David Robson 329. The Power of Curiosity with Scott Shigeoka See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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Sometimes saying “yes” too much can really take a toll on you. In this episode, Jill chats with Dr. Sunita Sah , a bestselling author and Cornell professor, about her book Defy: The Power of No in a World That Demands Yes . They break down how constant compliance can affect your emotions, mind, and body, and share strategies for recognizing when it’s time to push back. Sunita introduces the concept of a ‘Defiance Compass’ to help guide people in acting according to their values. You’ll also learn about the difference between going along with something and truly giving consent, how anxiety can arise in difficult situations, and why practicing small acts of defiance can prepare you for bigger, high-stakes moments. Listen and Learn: How can redefining "defiance" from a negative act of resistance to an alignment with true values help us better understand the balance between compliance, consent, and social pressure? Why is defiance better understood as a staged process on a continuum rather than a simple yes/no choice, and how does recognizing tension help us navigate compliance? Distinguishing between true expert intuition and bias-driven gut feelings when making decisions in uncertain situations Why is it so difficult for people to resist compliance and obedience in high-pressure situations, and how can practicing defiance help us prepare to say no and prevent harm? How can we recognize the difference between true consent and mere compliance, and what essential elements are needed to ensure a genuine "yes"? Navigating situations where we technically have the freedom to say no, but psychological pressures like insinuation anxiety or fear of consequences make it difficult to speak up How do insinuation anxiety and the sales pitch effect interact to increase pressure to comply, even when consent is technically present? Overcoming the tension and fear of non-compliance to act in alignment with our values using tools like the Defiance Compass How you can practice defiance as a skill Resources: Defy: The Power of No in a World That Demands Yes: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780593445778 Sunita’s Website: https://www.sunitasah.com/ Connect with Sunita on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/drsunitasah https://www.linkedin.com/in/drsunitasah/ https://www.tiktok.com/@drsunitasah About Sunita Sah Dr. Sunita Sah is a national bestselling author, an award-winning professor at Cornell University, and an expert in organizational psychology. She leads groundbreaking research on influence, authority, compliance, and defiance. A trained physician, Dr. Sah practiced medicine in the United Kingdom and worked as a management consultant for the pharmaceutical industry. She currently teaches executives, leaders, and students in healthcare and business. Dr. Sah is also a sought-after international speaker and consultant, an advisor to government agencies, and a former Commissioner of the National Commission on Forensic Science. Her multidisciplinary research and analyses have been widely published in leading academic journals and media outlets, including The New York Times , Los Angeles Times , Harvard Business Review , and Scientific American . She lives with her husband and son in New York. Related Episodes: 211. Subtract with Leidy Klotz 276. Assertive Communication Skills with Randy Paterson 305. The Power of Saying No with Vanessa Patrick 311. Nobody’s Fool with Daniel Simons and Christopher Chabris 394. Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant with Andrea Dunlop and Mike Weber 399. Likable Badass with Alison Fragale See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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1 420. Emotion-Savvy Parenting with Alissa Jerud 1:10:28
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Parenting often means walking a fine line between setting boundaries and showing warmth, all while managing your own feelings in the process. In this episode of Psychologists Off the Clock , Emily chats with Dr. Alissa Jerud about her book Emotion-Savvy Parenting and how recognizing and working with both your emotions and your child’s can build stronger connections and a calmer home life. Dr. Jerud shares her approach, Emotion Savvy Parenting, which draws from evidence-based methods such as exposure-based treatments and dialectical behavior therapy skills. She breaks down what makes up our emotional experiences, offers tools like the CARE skills for navigating intense situations, and explores topics such as the limits of gentle parenting, why mid-meltdown logic usually falls flat, and how differing parenting styles between caregivers can create challenges. Listen and Learn: How can parents respond skillfully and effectively to their children while managing their own strong and uncomfortable emotions? Combining respectful parenting and evidence-based therapies to help parents manage their own emotions, maintain firm limits, and model emotional regulation for their children The ways parents navigate the gray areas and overlaps between gentle parenting and autonomy-supportive parenting while avoiding the black-and-white thinking often seen on social media Parents often step in to fix their child’s struggles, but noticing and accepting their emotions and behaviors as they are can help children build resilience and support more effective parenting The primary and secondary ingredients of emotions, their triggers, how thoughts shape them, and how they show up physically and behaviorally, help parents regulate their own emotions by targeting these different aspects of feelings Quick, practical ways to manage intense emotions by regulating the body’s physiological response Why rigid beliefs that children must always obey can create frustration and disconnect, while accepting their emotions and allowing authentic expression supports both kids’ and parents’ emotional well-being The importance of accepting and validating a child’s emotions during emotional storms rather than trying to immediately fix or suppress them Recognizing that each child’s emotional needs are unique, and effective parenting often means staying present and supportive without trying to immediately fix or validate the emotion Resources: Alissa’s Website: https://www.alissajerud.com/ Emotion-Savvy Parenting: A Shame-Free Guide to Navigating Emotional Storms and Deepening Connection: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781032544946 Connect with Alissa on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/emotionsavvydoc/?hl=en https://www.facebook.com/emotionsavvydoc/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alissa-jerud-210764174 Emily’s Articles: What’s Wrong with Gentle Parenting? Psychology Today The Truth About Parents Who Yell at Their Kids , Psychology Today About Alissa Jerud Alissa Jerud, Ph.D. is a mom of two kids, a licensed clinical psychologist, a Clinical Assistant Professor at the University of Pennsylvania, and author of Emotion-Savvy Parenting: A Shame-Free Guide to Navigating Emotional Storms and Deepening Connection . She has a Ph.D. in clinical psychology from the University of Washington and completed her postdoctoral fellowship at the University of Pennsylvania’s Center for the Treatment and Study of Anxiety. In her private practice, Dr. Jerud specializes in exposure-based treatments for anxiety-related disorders, including obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), social anxiety disorder, panic disorder, specific phobias, and generalized anxiety disorder. Additionally, she specializes in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) skills training and particularly enjoys helping other parents learn research-backed strategies for accepting, regulating, and tolerating their emotions, as well as their children's. Dr. Jerud also trains other clinicians in exposure-based treatments and frequently gives workshops on anxiety, stress, mental health, parenting, and social support to companies large and small. Related Episodes 386. Parents Are Stressed: What Do We Do About It? 373. How to Stop Freaking Out with Carla Naumburg 344. Differently Wired Kids with Deborah Reber 241. Emotion Coaching Skills for Families with Mindy Solomon 240. Talking to Kids and Teens About Big Feelings with Adele LaFrance 149. How to Not Lose It with Your Kids with Carla Naumburg 14. Mindful Parenting 9. Children’s Emotions: Understanding and Responding to Your Child’s Emotions See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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If you’re stuck in an unhealthy relationship and wondering whether it’s right for you or you’re recently facing the pain and confusion of a breakup, we invite you to tune into this episode with John Kim , also known as the Angry Therapist, to explore his viewpoint on relationship endings. John lays out how breakups or ‘relationship expirations’ as he coins them, can serve as powerful catalysts to kickstart your own personal growth, and highlights the importance of self-reflection, healthy boundaries, and meaningful connection with yourself and others. Speaking from his own experiences, as well as insights and stories from his latest book, Breakup on Purpose , you’ll hear why John sees breakups as not just painful endings but meaningful rites of passage that can offer space to learn and evolve. Listen and Learn: Breakups, while painful, can be a powerful catalyst for personal growth when approached with reflection and ownership Shifting how we view breakups from failures to “expired relationships” helps us embrace healing and rewrite the narrative around endings How to balance knowing when to work through relationship challenges versus when it’s healthy to walk away Why breakups are a natural rite of passage and essential for personal growth Why humility and self-reflection are essential but often difficult steps toward personal growth Healing from a breakup involves embracing the pain with compassion, finding purpose beyond the relationship, and transforming personal loss into growth and a greater meaningful journey How society places too much importance on romantic love as the sole source of meaning and fulfillment and elying on one romantic partner to fulfill all needs is unrealistic and sets people up for disappointment Breakups have distinctive types that require different responses and healing strategies How to balance self-comfort with avoiding behaviors that hinder healing after a breakup by setting personal limits and gradually re-engaging with life The importance of meaningful connection, whether through community, close relationships, or personal passions, as a vital part of recovery, especially for introverts The cycle of rupture and repair in relationships is essential, teaching us how to build deeper connection, resilience, and emotional safety Resources: John’s Website: https://www.theangrytherapist.com/ John’s Books: Break Up On Purpose : https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780063275331 Single On Purpose : https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780062980731 Connect with John on Socials: https://www.facebook.com/john.kim.1650/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/theangrytherapist https://www.instagram.com/theangrytherapist/ Power of Discord by Ed Tronick and Claudia Gold: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780316488877 Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780807060100 About John Kim John Kim, widely known as 'The Angry Therapist.' John is a licensed therapist, engaging speaker, fellow podcaster, and best-selling author whose works include 'It's Not Me, It's You,' 'Single. On Purpose,' and 'I Used to Be a Miserable F*ck.' What makes John's approach unique is how he shares therapeutic wisdom through his blog and Instagram, using authenticity and transparency to connect with and support people on their personal journeys. Related Episodes: 117. Bearing Unbearable Loss: A Conversation about Grief with Joanne Cacciatore 126. Surviving Break-Ups and Divorce: How to Mend a Broken Heart, with Debbie and Yael 186. Set Boundaries Find Peace with Nedra Tawwab 249. How to be Single and Happy with Jenny Taitz 343. Heartbreak with Florence Williams See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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1 418. Changing the Stories We Tell Ourselves with Phil Lane 56:07
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Could the stories you tell yourself be shaping how you see yourself? Sometimes those stories build us up, but other times, they are just quietly tearing us down. In this episode, Michael talks with Dr. Phil Lane , a licensed clinical social worker and the author of The Narrative Therapy Workbook for Self-Esteem , about how we can start to shift those inner stories in a healthier direction. Phil shares what led him to narrative therapy and why storytelling can be an incredibly powerful tool for healing. He talks about how many of us carry around dominant narratives, which are beliefs about ourselves that sometimes we may not even realize we’ve absorbed. And explains how you can learn to question and rewrite those beliefs, helping us reconnect with who we really are. You'll also benefit from the core techniques behind narrative therapy, like scaffolding and deconstruction, and explore what it’s like to share your personal story in different settings. Listen and Learn: How the power of storytelling in a safe space can transform self-perception and healing Changing the story you've been telling yourself and beginning to see who you truly are, more fully and clearly Uncovering hidden parts of your life story beyond the dominant narrative you've accepted How inherited beliefs shape your story and how to consciously rewrite it for yourself Identifying faulty beliefs and clarifying your values helps rewrite your personal story for self-acceptance Understanding your past to shape your present story empowers your daily life choices How to rebuild your personal story by carefully scaffolding and deconstructing it for true self-accuracy Embracing curiosity to uncover and challenge the beliefs you’ve always seen as true How acceptance and reframing your story can empower you to embrace life's challenges and thrive Viewing your life story as multi-genre can bring richer healing and balance How narrative therapy reveals deeper meaning beyond surface explanations When and how to share your sacred story meaningfully beyond small talk and surface talk Resources: The Narrative Therapy Workbook for Self-Esteem: Rewrite Your Story, Overcome Imposter Syndrome and Feelings of Inadequacy, and Build Lasting Confidence: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781648485312 Phil’s Website: https://www.phil-lane.com/ You 2.0: Change Your Story, Change Your Life: https://hiddenbrain.org/podcast/healing-2-0-change-your-story-change-your-life/ Connect with Phil on Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100087891174326 https://instagram.com/therapist_phil About Phil Lane Phil Lane is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, psychotherapist in private practice and author of the books Understanding and Coping with Illness Anxiety, The Narrative Therapy Workbook for Self-Esteem and Overcoming Panic and Panic Attacks. Phil practices and writes from a humanistic point of view with a goal of normalizing and de-stigmatizing commonly experienced problems and challenges. Phil and his family live in the central part of New Jersey where he enjoys gardening, reading, writing, watching baseball, and model railroading. Phil can be found on Instagram at @therapist_phil and online at phil-lane.com . You can also find his author pages on Amazon and Goodreads. Related Episodes 239. Edit Your Story, Change Your Life with Lori Gottlieb See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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1 417. Busting Trauma Treatment Myths with Emi Nietfeld 1:00:02
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The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk has become a go-to book for understanding trauma, but not everyone agrees with its approach. In this episode, journalist and author of Acceptance: A Memoir , Emi Nietfeld joins us to talk about The Body Keeps the Score and how it influenced the world of trauma therapy. Bringing both her personal experience and sharp insight to the table, she enlightens us on trauma treatment and why popular narratives around resilience and recovery often miss the mark, especially when they lean more on storytelling than science. We get into where the book falls short, especially around science and why proven methods like CBT and prolonged exposure therapy deserve more attention. Emi also opens up about how those treatments personally changed her life. It’s an honest look at trauma, what really works, and how we can do better, both personally and as a society. Listen and Learn: Why true resilience isn't about toughness alone but about community, care, and real support systems How the mental health system often fails kids by ignoring family dysfunction and why real change starts with seeing the full context, not just labeling the child Why positive thinking isn't enough for trauma recovery and how validating, supportive therapy makes all the difference when you're ready to speak your truth Avoiding trauma memories in therapy can cause more harm and what effective healing requires How popular trauma books like “The Body Keeps the Score” can fuel shame Challenging the "addicted to trauma" label and how oversimplified narratives can stigmatize survivors and ignore systemic causes of violence How trauma research can be misrepresented, especially about cognitive behavioral therapy’s real effectiveness Using structured prolonged exposure therapy to help you safely face trauma and build resilience Writing a memoir can unearth painful truths, but honest storytelling sparks real healing and self-acceptance Why popular trauma books feel like belief systems—and why we need solutions beyond therapy Resources: Emi’s Book Acceptance: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780593489499 Emi’s website https://www.eminietfeld.com/ and her Substack https://eminietfeld.substack.com/ Connect with Emi on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/emi-nietfeld/ and Instagram https://www.instagram.com/eminietfeld/ Mother Jones article: https://www.motherjones.com/media/2024/12/trauma-body-keeps-the-score-van-der-kolk-psychology-therapy-ptsd/ Slate article: https://slate.com/technology/2024/08/sexual-assault-treatment-talk-therapy-prolonged-exposure-recovery.html Article mentioned on trauma theory as a belief system: https://beiner.substack.com/p/the-truth-about-trauma-bessel-van About Emi Nietfield Emi Nietfeld is an author, journalist, and speaker. She is the author of Acceptance (Penguin Press ‘22), a memoir of her journey through foster care and homelessness, interrogating the true meanings of resilience, ambition, and success. After graduating from Harvard in 2015, she worked as a software engineer, an experience she wrote about in her viral New York Times essay, “After Working At Google, I’ll Never Let Myself Love a Job Again.” She’s passionate about mental health, helping young people navigate their careers, and the connection between engineering and creativity. A dynamic, sought-after speaker, she can be found on podcasts, leading conference keynotes, and speaking at universities and companies alike. Her essays have appeared in The New York Times , New York Magazine , The Atlantic , and other publications , been nominated for the Pushcart Prize, noted in The Best American Essays , and taught in classrooms from high schools to MFA programs. Related Episodes: 416. Trauma and PTSD Treatment with Robyn Walser 383. What My Bones Know: C-PTSD with Stephanie Foo 279. ACT for Healing Black Racial Trauma with Jennifer Shepard Payne 313. ACT-Informed Exposure for Anxiety with Brian Pilecki and Brian Thompson 355. What is EMDR with Jamie Marich 77. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy with Jill Stoddard See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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1 416. Trauma and PTSD Treatment with Robyn Walser 1:05:45
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Trauma and PTSD leave a lasting imprint on how we see ourselves and navigate the world, which is why Debbie sits down with returning guest Dr. Robyn Walser for this episode, a clinical psychologist and expert in evidence-based treatment for PTSD, to explore the path to trauma recovery. Robyn unpacks the principles of exposure therapy, the importance of processing traumatic experiences, and insights from her new book, which she co-authored with Darrah Westrup, You Are Not Your Trauma . This conversation offers a deep understanding of PTSD, the wide-ranging effects of trauma, and how healing involves redefining one’s relationship to past events rather than being retraumatized by them. Listen and Learn: Breaking free from trauma’s grip and reconnecting with the deeper, fuller self beyond it Why understanding the true meaning of trauma matters and how misusing the word can impact healing Understanding how trauma, whether single events or complex, can cause avoidance, disrupt life, and impact relationships How trauma’s fear cycle traps you and how changing your relationship to thoughts frees you to live again Reclaiming your life by embracing fear and living your values fully through trauma recovery in ACT Embracing the natural flow of trauma memories helps you process and regain freedom Using written exposure therapy helps you safely process trauma by revisiting and writing about it How structured, flexible exposure therapy in Robyn and Darrah’s new book, You Are Not Your Trauma , helps you process trauma and build lasting resilience Resources: Coming Soon— You Are Not Your Trauma: An Acceptance and Commitment Therapy Guide for Healing from Within by Robyn Walser and Darrah Westrup : https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9781462557899 Robyn’s Website: https://robynwalser.com/ Connect with Robyn on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/walser.robyn/ https://www.facebook.com/theheartofact https://www.linkedin.com/in/robynwalser About Robyn D. Walser Robyn D. Walser, Ph.D., is an internationally recognized clinical psychologist, educator, and author. She is the Director of Trauma and Life Consultation and Psychology Services, Assistant Professor at the University of California, Berkeley, and Director of Research at Bay Area Trauma Recovery Clinical Services. Dr. Walser has contributed significantly to the dissemination of Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT) and holds a pivotal role in implementing ACT in one of the US's largest national healthcare systems. She also works at the National Center for PTSD, where her work focus is on trauma recovery, depression, and moral injury. A writer and scholar, Dr. Walser has co-authored nine influential books on ACT, including the widely respected The Heart of ACT: Developing a Flexible, Process-Based, and Client-Centered Practice Using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. Her research and clinical expertise have made her a sought-after voice in advancing the application of ACT to address a variety of complex psychological challenges. Since 1997, Dr. Walser has led ACT workshops worldwide, bringing her passion for process-based, experiential learning to therapists and clinicians. Known for her compassionate and client-centered approach, Dr. Walser’s teaching emphasizes the integration of evidence-based practices with human connection and flexibility. Whether through her books, articles, or live training, Dr. Walser continues to influence the evolution of ACT and inspire professionals in their pursuit of effective, transformative therapy. To learn more about her work, visit robynwalser.com . Book: You Are Not Your Trauma: An ACT Guide for Healing from Within by Robyn D. Walser and Darrah Westrup Related Episodes: 383. What My Bones Know: C-PTSD with Stephanie Foo 279. ACT for Healing Black Racial Trauma with Jennifer Shepard Payne 313. ACT-Informed Exposure for Anxiety with Brian Pilecki and Brian Thompson 355. What is EMDR with Jamie Marich 77. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy with Jill Stoddard 320. Anger and Forgiveness with Robyn Walser 106. Therapy from “The Heart of ACT” with Robyn Walser 98. Narcissism with Avigail Lev and Robyn Walser 49. Empowering Women with Robyn Walser 345. Writing for Personal Growth with Maureen Murdock See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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1 415. Sober Curious with Casey Davidson 1:18:59
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If you've been feeling like alcohol just doesn’t fit your life anymore, this conversation with Casey Davidson , a Life and Sobriety Coach, might really speak to you. Casey opens up about her personal journey of becoming alcohol-free, talks you through the benefits and challenges of sobriety, and clears up some common myths along the way. You’ll come away with takeaways about the impact alcohol can have on your mental and physical health, how social norms and marketing can negatively influence drinking habits, and why approaching sobriety with curiosity and self-compassion can make all the difference in your journey. We hope the personal stories combined with practical insights in this episode will be an inspiring and relatable resource for anyone exploring a more mindful relationship with alcohol. Listen and Learn: How Casey broke free from nightly wine, ditched mommy wine culture, and found freedom How high-functioning people can unknowingly rely on alcohol, and what waking up at 3 AM really means Alcohol disrupts joy, sleep, and mood. See what changes when you give it up for just 30 days Navigating sobriety without hitting rock bottom, plus mindset shifts, social fears, and partner dynamics Why the term "alcoholic" can be misleading, and how redefining sobriety empowers choice How non-alcoholic drinks can fit joyful routines without the triggers The lasting benefits of 30, 60, and 100 days sober, like better sleep, mood, and self-care Why trying to moderate drinking often traps you in a craving cycle, and quitting frees your mind and sparks new creativity Resources: Casey’s website: Hello Someday Coaching - https://hellosomedaycoaching.com/ The Hello Someday Podcast For Sober Curious Women - https://hellosomedaycoaching.com/podcast/ Good Morning America asked Casey how I saved $48,000 by not drinking alcohol!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyrfQMv5waU&authuser=0 Connect with Casey on Social Media: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caseydavidson/ https://www.instagram.com/caseymdavidson/ https://facebook.com/hellosomeday About Casey McGuire Davidson: Casey McGuire Davidson is a Life & Sobriety Coach and the host of the Top 100 Mental Health Podcast, The Hello Someday Podcast for Sober Curious Women . As an ex-red wine girl who spent 20 years climbing the corporate ladder while holding on tightly to her love of wine, Casey’s passionate about helping busy women stop drinking and create lives they love without alcohol. Her work has been featured on Good Morning America , NPR , HuffPos t, The New York Times and NBC News . Related Episodes 176. Fair Play with Eve Rodsky 202. The Addiction Inoculation with Jess Lahey 206. Fair Play Part 2 with Eve Rodsky 233. Dopamine Nation with Anna Lembke 247. Find Your Unicorn Space with Eve Rodsky 286. Not Drinking Tonight with Amanda White 316. Understanding Addiction with Judith Grisel 402. Harm Reduction for Addiction with Kristin Dempsey See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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1 414. The Disengaged Teen with Rebecca Winthrop and Jenny Anderson 1:10:15
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Why do so many kids seem unmotivated at school, and what can we do about it? In this episode of Psychologists Off the Clock, we’re taking a look at what’s really going on with student engagement, especially during those tricky adolescent years. Our guests, Rebecca Winthrop and Jenny Anderson , co-authors of The Disengaged Teen , join Emily to break it all down. From the four types of learners—the Passenger, Achiever, Resistor, and Explorer—to how we can help kids tap into curiosity and motivation, this conversation is full of eye-opening insights for both parents and educators. They also unpack the pressures of today’s achievement culture, the influence of tech and AI, and most importantly, how parents and teachers can support teens in becoming more confident, engaged learners. Listen and Learn: Why Rebecca Winthrop and Jenny Anderson wrote a game-changing book to fix the student disengagement crisis Why only 4% of teens feel truly engaged in school, and what you can do to change that What true engagement looks like in your teen How boosting your child’s engagement in learning can improve grades, motivation, and mental health Why the “age of achievement” hoop-jumping is harming your child and how to shift toward true agency How your child can shift between four learning modes and how you can help them thrive Spotting if your child’s stuck in “passenger mode” and igniting their true learning spark How your neurodivergent or struggling child can unlock support and build resilience How your well-meaning expectations might be fueling your child’s harmful perfectionism Turning your child’s “resistor mode” into growth by truly understanding and supporting them Why your child’s curiosity and choices spark real learning skills that grades and rules can’t teach How your curiosity and relationship with your child can transform their learning mindset Resources : The Disengaged Teen: Helping Kids Learn Better, Feel Better, and Live Better: https://bookshop.org/a/30734/9780593727072 Jenny’s website: https://www.jennywestanderson.org/ Rebecca’s website: https://www.rebeccawinthrop.com/ Connect with Rebecca on social media: https://www.instagram.com/drrebeccawinthrop/?hl=en https://x.com/rebeccawinthrop?lang=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-winthrop-b36b0617 Connect with Jenny on social media: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jennyandersonnyt https://x.com/jwestanderson?lang=en https://www.instagram.com/jennyandersonwrites/?hl=en About Rebecca Winthrop and Jenny Anderson Rebecca Winthrop is a leading global authority on education, the director of the Center for Universal Education at Brookings and an adjunct professor at Georgetown University. She is dedicated to ensuring that every child has the opportunity to thrive in life, work, and as an engaged citizen. She leads cutting-edge research and initiatives aimed at transforming education systems around the world to better support children's learning and development. Rebecca is a trusted advisor to both school communities and national and international organizations. Her expertise is sought by many including parent networks, schools, district education leaders, the White House, the United Nations, and Fortune 500 companies. Rebecca's work is centered on developing and advocating for evidence-based strategies that bring people together—families, educators, policymakers, and companies—to help children maximize their potential. She holds a PhD from Columbia University’s Teachers College, an MA from its School of International and Public Affairs, and a BA from Swarthmore College. Jenny Anderson is an award-winning journalist, author, and speaker with more than 25 years of experience. Her work has appeared in some of the world’s leading publications, including The New York Times, where she was on staff for 10 years, TIME, The Atlantic, the Wall Street Journal and Quartz. Related Episodes: 369. Good News About Adolescence with Ellen Galinsky 344. Differently Wired Kids with Deborah Reber 332. Middle School Superpowers with Phyllis Fagell 324. Toxic Achievement Culture with Jennifer Wallace 319. Autonomy-Supportive Parenting with Emily Edlynn 272. Middle School Matters with Phyllis Fagell See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
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