The Shape of Dialogue podcast focuses on the foundational principles that make societies function at their best. It initially started with an investigation into free speech, it continues to discuss relevant and interesting topics about our world and how best to navigate through it.
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Why Study The Classics? with Dr James Kierstead - The Shape of Dialogue #32
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Dr James Kierstead is a Research Fellow with the Initiative and his main focus will be on higher education policy, including academic freedom. James holds a BA in Classics from Oxford, an MA in Ancient History from the University of London, an MA in Political Science from Stanford, and a PhD in Classics from Stanford. He is also the co-host (with M…
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Do women have rights? with Sall Grover - The Shape of Dialogue #31
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gigglecrowdfund.com Sall's X handle - @salltweets A male named Roxy Tickle, who identifies as a woman, has brought a human rights claim against Sall Grover for not permitting him to use her female-only networking app, Giggle. He initially filed the complaint last year, but withdrew, due to funding reasons. He has now filed again, way out of time an…
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The Shape of Liberty with Toby Young - The Shape of Dialogue #30
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A discussion about liberty, free speech and threats to liberal societies with British journalist and founder of the Free Speech Union, Toby Young. http://www.tobyyoung.co.uk https://www.spectator.co.uk/writer/toby-young/ https://x.com/toadmeister https://freespeechunion.org https://dailysceptic.org Doc Edge & The UnRedacted with Alex Lee - The Shap…
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A Dialogue On Dialogue with Peter Boghossian - The Shape of Dialogue #29
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https://peterboghossian.com https://linktr.ee/peterboghossian Philosopher Dr. Peter Boghossian's main focus is bringing the tools of professional philosophers to people in a wide variety of contexts. Peter has a teaching pedigree spanning more than 25 years and 30 thousand students - in prisons, hospitals, public and private schools, seminaries, un…
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Free Speech Diversity? with Michael Johnston & Jonathan Ayling - The Shape of Dialogue #28
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Michael Johnston https://www.nzinitiative.org.nz/about-us/our-people/dr-michael-johnston/ Jonathan Ayling https://www.fsu.nz/meet_the_team The role of Universities in supporting freedom of speech The discussion on the role of universities in supporting freedom of speech held at Te Herenga Waka — Victoria University of Wellington in May 2024. Watch …
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Can we agree to disagree? Free Speech in 2024 with Jonathan Ayling - The Shape of Dialogue #27
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https://www.fsu.nz Jonathan Ayling is Chief Executive of theFree Speech Union. Jonathan has worked in Wellington, the New Zealand capital, for 8 years across roles as a Beehive staffer, senior political advisor, and in the NGO sector. In addition to leading the work at the Free Speech Union, he and his wife own a vineyard in the Wairarapa.…
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The Constitution of Knowledge with Jonathan Rauch - The Shape of Dialogue #26
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https://www.jonathanrauch.com Jonathan Rauch was brought to New Zealand by the Free Speech Union for a speaking tour in May 2025. See here for more information about the Free Speech Union - https://www.fsu.nz Jonathan Rauch is a highly acclaimed American journalist and senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington. He has written eight b…
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TRANS - Biology or Ideology? with Helen Joyce - The Shape of Dialogue #25
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Helen Joyce is a journalist and was a staff writer for The Economist between 2005 and 2022. Helen held various leading positions at The Economist, including education editor, Brazil correspondent, International editor, Finance editor and Britain editor. Helen's first book, "Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality," was published by OneWorld in July 2021…
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Richard Dawkins in New Zealand - Auckland - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #24
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Richard Dawkins - https://richarddawkins.com/ In February 2023, Richard Dawkins asked me to host his New Zealand speaking tour. Today's podcast is the Auckland event, in which Richard discusses the scientific method, his recent book Flights of Fancy, and the debate surrounding the inclusion of non-scientific Māori mythological concepts in the New Z…
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Curriculum Update – Nick Matzke - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #23
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About Nick Matzke - https://profiles.auckland.ac.nz/n-matzke Background In July 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter to the editor in the New Zealand Listener, titled In Defence of Science. The professors' were responding to a Government education report (see link below), recommending parity for Mātauranga Māori in the s…
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Save Our Schools – Education – Michael Johnston - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #22
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Save Our Schools Report https://www.nzinitiative.org.nz/reports-and-media/reports/save-our-schools-solutions-for-new-zealands-education-crisis/document/797 Dr Michael Johnston is a Senior Fellow at the New Zealand Initiative. He leads the workstream on education. Prior to his time at the Initiative, Dr Johnston held academic positions at Victoria U…
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China's Genocide - Jewher Ilham - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #21
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Jewher Ilham https://www.allstaticandnoise.com/ Twitter https://twitter.com/jewherilham Jewher Ilham: A Uyghur's Fight to Free Her Father (Broken Silence) https://www.amazon.com/Jewher-Ilham-Uyghurs-Father-Silence/dp/1608011054 Ilham Tohti : http://www.ilhamtohti.com/ Uyghur Forced Labor Checker https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/uyghur-forc…
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All Static & Noise - Genocide in China - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #20
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Director David Novack talks about All Static & Noise, his documentary on the Uyghur genocide in western China. www.allstaticandnoise.com www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100088787521406 https://www.instagram.com/allstaticandnoise/ https://twitter.com/allstatic_noise https://www.odessafilms.com/our-films.html https://www.odessafilms.com/david-novack.…
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The Edge of Knowledge with Lawrence Krauss - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #19
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Connect with Lawrence at https://lawrencemkrauss.com/ Get Lawrence's book at: https://www.amazon.com/Edge-Knowledge... Get exclusive bonus content at https://lawrencekrauss.substack.com/ Twitter: https: //twitter.com/LKrauss1?s=20 Lawrence Krauss explores the unanswered questions at the forefront of science today and likely for the coming century a…
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Doc Edge & The UnRedacted with Alex Lee - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #18
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Alex Lee, co-founder and director of the Doc Edge International Documentary Film Festival, talks about the worldwide banning of Meg Smaker's feature-length documentary, "The Unredacted (Jihad Rehab)". The film follows a group of men trained by al-Qaeda who are transferred from Guantanamo and sent to the world's first rehabilitation centre for "terr…
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Identity, Mitochondrial Gene Transfer & Science with Mike Berridge - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast No 17
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Professor Mike Berridge completed a doctoral degree in cell biology at the University of Auckland in 1971 exploring the mechanism of action of plant growth hormones. Following postdoctoral research in developmental molecular biology at Purdue University, USA, and experience as a staff scientist at National Institute for Medical Research, Mill Hill,…
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Metaphors with Steven Pinker The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #16
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Steven Pinker is an experimental psychologist who conducts research in visual cognition, psycholinguistics, and social relations. He grew up in Montreal and earned his BA from McGill and his PhD from Harvard. Currently Johnstone Professor of Psychology at Harvard, he has also taught at Stanford and MIT. He has won numerous prizes for his research, …
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Mātauranga Māori with Charles Royal - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #15
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About Charles Royal - http://www.charles-royal.nz/ In 2021, 7 University of Auckland professors penned a letter to the editor in the Listener, titled In Defence of Science. The professors' were responding to a Government education report (link below), recommending parity for Mātauranga Māori in the secondary school curriculum, and in particular, in…
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Non-science in the science classroom with Professor Anthony Poole The Shape of Dialogue Podcast No 14
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Professor Anthony Poole School of Biological Sciences University of Auckland https://profiles.auckland.ac.nz/appo310 Professor Poole’s Articles Japan’s path to becoming a leader in Western science: an Asian perspective on science and other forms of knowledge (short version) Japan’s path to becoming leaders in ‘Western’ science: an Asian perspective…
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Mātauranga Māori & the Science Curriculum with Paul Kilmartin The Shape of Dialogue Podcast No 13
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Professor Paul Kilmartin - https://unidirectory.auckland.ac.nz/profile/p-kilmartin In July 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter to the editor in the New Zealand Listener, titled "In Defence of Science". The professors' were responding to a Government education report (see link below), recommending parity for Mātauranga M…
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Science with Lawrence Krauss The Shape of Dialogue Podcast No 12
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Professor Krauss - https://www.lawrencemkrauss.com/ In 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter titled In Defence of Science. The professors' were responding to a Government education report (link below), recommending parity for Mātauranga Māori in the secondary school curriculum, and in particular, in the science classroom.…
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Occam's Razor & Science with Professor Johnjoe McFadden - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #11
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This is part of an ongoing investigation into what is and isn't science and whether indigenous "ways of knowings" have a scientific basis. In July 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter to the editor in the New Zealand Listener, titled In Defence of Science. The professors' were responding to a Government education report …
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Mātauranga Māori & Science with Dr Daniel Hikuroa -The Shape of Dialogue Podcast #10
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Dr Daniel Hikuroa discusses Mātauranga Māori and its relationship to science and why he believes aspects of Mātauranga Māori should be included in the school science curriculum. About Dr Daniel Hikuroa - www.maramatanga.co.nz/person/dr-daniel-hikuroa Context to this conversation...... A New Zealand Government education report (see link below) is re…
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Science vs "Other Ways of Knowing" with Professor Jerry Coyne - The Shape of Dialogue Podcast # 9
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About Jerry Coyne - www.whyevolutionistrue.com/about/ Jerry’s Why Evolution Is True blog - “Ways of knowing” - https://tinyurl.com/3tmmx59d Email Royal Society of New Zealand chief executive paul.atkins@royalsociety.org.nz Context In July 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter to the editor in the New Zealand Listener, tit…
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What is science? with Professor Steven Pinker - The Shape of Dialogue # 8
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In July 2021, seven University of Auckland professors published a letter to the editor in the New Zealand Listener, titled In Defence of Science. The professors' were responding to a Government education report (see link below), recommending parity for Mātauranga Māori in the secondary school curriculum, and in particular, in the science classroom.…
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Antiracism rhetoric with Dr Erec Smith - The Shape of Dialogue # 7
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Dr Erec Smith is an Associate Professor of Rhetoric at York College of Pennsylvania. Although he has eclectic scholarly interests, Dr Smith’s primary focus is on the rhetorics of anti-racist activism, theory, and pedagogy. He is a co-founder of Free Black Thought, a website dedicated to highlighting viewpoint diversity within the black intelligents…
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What is science? with Dr Kyle Gibson - The Shape of Dialogue # 6
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A recent "letter to the editor" penned by seven University of Auckland professors was published in The Listener, a national magazine in New Zealand - see below. The letter, In Defence of Science, stated that a Ministry of Education working group's proposed curriculum changes were "perpetuating misunderstandings of science". The letter objected to t…
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Street Epistemology with Anthony Magnabosco - The Shape of Dialogue # 5
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Anthony Magnabosco is a skeptic and atheist from San Antonio Texas who has been practicing and promoting Street Epistemology since 2013. Anthony has had several hundred chats (many of them on camera and uploaded to his YouTube channel) on a variety of claims including Gods, ghosts, karma, law of attraction, and a variety of social and political top…
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Freedom of Speech with Elliot Ikilei - The Shape of Dialogue # 4
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Elliot Ikilei discusses freedom of speech and other things https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Ikilei Music: Kyrie from Bach B Minor Mass conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner Buy it here: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mass-in-b-minor-bwv-232-cum-sancto-spiritu/1053521016Af Michael Goldwater
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Freedom of Speech with Simon Wilson - The Shape of Dialogue # 3
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Leading New Zealand journalist, Simon Wilson, discusses freedom of speech. Music: Kyrie from Bach B Minor Mass conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner Buy it here: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mass-in-b-minor-bwv-232-cum-sancto-spiritu/1053521016Af Michael Goldwater
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Freedom of Speech with Professor James Flynn - The Shape of Dialogue #2
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My first guest is a world-renowned political and moral philosopher, University of Otago's Emeritus Professor James Flynn defines what freedom of speech is and why it's so important to us all. Music: Kyrie from Bach B Minor Mass conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner Buy it here: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mass-in-b-minor-bwv-232-cum-sancto-spir…
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Freedom of Speech with Michael Goldwater - The Shape of Dialogue #1
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An investigation into freedom of speech and why it's so important. In this episode I'll discuss why and how freedom of speech is a fundamental principle for societies to function at their best. Music: Kyrie from Bach B Minor Mass conducted by Sir John Eliot Gardiner Buy it here: https://music.apple.com/gb/album/mass-in-b-minor-bwv-232-cum-sancto-sp…
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