Episode 173 – On The World Stage: The FIFA World Cup Turf Project

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The podcast by project managers for project managers. The FIFA World Cup is the biggest sporting event in the world. With billions of people tuning in to view the games, we wondered if anyone noticed the grass! In this unique project story, John Holmes explains how he navigated the selection process and became the exclusive supplier of turfgrass for the 2022 FIFA World Cup. We share the planning, logistics, challenges, constraints and lessons learned in this remarkable project. Table of Contents 02:18 … Meet John03:41 … Atlas Turf Production05:22 … Sustainable Solutions06:53 … The Bid for The FIFA World Cup Turf09:23 … Transporting the Turf11:46 … Project Coordination and Planning14:12 … Kevin and Kyle15:41 … Project Budget16:57 … Project Timeline18:47 … Biggest Risk Factor19:39 … Collaborations and Cultural Differences21:43 … Government Restrictions22:38 … Lessons Learned23:56 … Soccer vs. Golf Turf25:52 … Leadership Advice from John27:30 … Find out More28:33 … Closing JOHN HOLMES: I’ve been really fortunate to travel to some very unique places. And it’s really helped me grow as a person, and meeting folks from different cultures, nationalities, different beliefs than me. But at the end of the day, everybody’s a human being and has the same struggles, similar struggles. I try to be very respectful, too. And I think that’s so important when you’re dealing with different cultures. Well, at the end of the day in a business deal, everybody’s trying to get to the same point and having a successful project. And figuring out a way to do it without animosity, without any issues is so important and makes things go very smoothly. WENDY GROUNDS: You’re listening to Manage This, the podcast for project managers by project managers. My name is Wendy Grounds, and with me in the studio is Bill Yates and our engineer, Danny Brewer. We love having you join us twice a month to be motivated and inspired by project stories, leadership lessons, and advice from industry experts from all around the world; and we love to bring you some support as you navigate your projects. You can also claim free Professional Development Units from PMI by listening to our show. Listen up at the end of the show for advice on how to do that. Now, Bill, we have an interesting conversation with John Holmes today. BILL YATES: Yes. WENDY GROUNDS: He’s from Atlas Turf. Atlas Turf produced the grass for some of the world’s premier golf associations. And I love the story that he was responsible for the turf that was used in the 2022 FIFA World Cup. BILL YATES: Isn’t that amazing, yeah. And he happens to be – their company is headquartered here in Georgia. But he has delivered product and solutions all over the globe. He’s had a lot of personal travel. I’d like to see his passport and see some of the stamps in that. WENDY GROUNDS: And he also has been in places like Sri Lanka, Mauritius, the Maldives, New Caledonia, Seychelles. It’s all over the world into very interesting places he’s taking his grass. BILL YATES: That’s true. He delivers. WENDY GROUNDS: Hi, John. Welcome to Manage This. Thank you so much for joining us today. JOHN HOLMES: So glad to be here and able to share our unique story. Meet John WENDY GROUNDS: Have you always worked with turf? What was your career path? JOHN HOLMES: I have a degree in turf grass management. But my career started when I was a teenager working on the local golf course in our town. And in doing so I discovered that you could actually go to college and get a degree in managing turf grass, and I did that and became a golf course superintendent, managing the turf grass on a golf course, almost 32 years ago. BILL YATES: How about that. So you’ve been working with grass for 30-something years. And then how did you come to Atlas, you know, what was that transition? JOHN HOLMES: My career as a golf course superintendent took me and my wife to Mexico and...