Attention Arts Leaders, Entrepreneurs, Patrons, Funders, and Educators Are you ready to transform and elevate the role of the arts in society and join the renaissance of relevance? Get insights from industry leaders, creative collaborators, and innovative thinkers on redefining the arts for a modern audience. This podcast connects the arts and creative community across all disciplines, harnessing the power in numbers to create a renaissance of arts relevance, revolutionize resources, and bui ...
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When you work in entertainment, you are in the business of fun. This podcast will focus on the challenges and opportunities associated with helping your customers create memories and special moments. We will talk about sports, theatre, performing arts, and other forms of entertainment, highlighting the best ideas in marketing live experiences, creating long-term customers, and growing revenues.
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Redefining Art Accessibility: Supporting Artists Beyond the Creative Process with Celina Nader
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How can we redefine art accessibility to support artists truly? In this episode, Angela Meleca talks with chef and writer Celina Nader about the importance of holistic support for artists, the unseen challenges they face, and the role of community in fostering creativity. This conversation dives into redefining how we value art by supporting the pe…
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Jon Allen teaches me how to approach a new market
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My guest today is Jon Allen from TKT.com. We had a good time talking about TKT's move to the European market. Jon teaches me about taking a US tech focused approach to the hospitality ticket market in Europe. We talk about opportunity. We also hit upon the importance of speaking the language of the market you are in. Jon talks about staying in line…
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#19 Why Are We Still Explaining Creativity? with Jason Blair
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In this episode, Angela sits down with Jason Blair, an innovative arts educator, to tackle a surprising question: Why do so many administrators still struggle to connect creativity with the arts? Together, they explore how arts education is crucial for developing the creative problem-solvers we need and the frustrating reality of advocating for the…
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Engaging Non-Customers for Growth with Dave Wakeman
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In this abbreviated episode of ARTS Redefined, Angela speaks with pricing expert Dave Wakeman about why discounts are for dummies and how his "3 P's of Pricing" can help arts organizations build long-term success. Dave shares insights on using Process, Price, and Promotion to drive demand and grow audiences without sacrificing profitability. If you…
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I've got Andrew Recinos on the podcast today! Andrew is the CEO of Tessitura. He came to me with a great idea: we have our podcast conversation built around the ideas I share with folks in 'The Fans for Life' workshop. We discussed ideas such as: Why Andrew enjoys my POV of looking at tickets through the gamut of tickets sold. We discuss the idea o…
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Unlocking the Power of Arts Advocacy: How Creativity Drives Economic Growth and Community Transformation with David Weaver
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In this episode, Angela talks with David Weaver, former Executive Director of Ohioana, about the power of arts advocacy and its vital role in shaping community identity and economic development. Together, they explore the disconnect between public perception of the arts and actual financial support, while offering strategies to bridge that gap. Thi…
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The Power of Saying No in Business & Creativity
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In this episode of ARTS Redefined, Angela speaks with creative entrepreneur Catherine Lang-Cline about the vital connection between creativity, entrepreneurship, and the arts. Catherine shares her journey advocating for artists, highlighting the challenges of negotiating their worth and the role creativity plays in driving innovation. They also exp…
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Why Discounting Kills Your Arts Brand: Marketing Strategies with Dave Wakeman
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In this episode of ARTS Redefined, Angela talks with marketing expert Dave Wakeman about the evolving landscape of arts marketing. They explore why arts organizations need to rethink traditional marketing strategies, emphasize long-term brand building, and engage both customers and non-customers effectively. Dave also shares insights on the dangers…
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Exploring Belonging and Identity Through Art: Julie Rae Powers' Journey of Self-Discovery
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In this episode of ARTS Redefined, Angela sits down with photographer and author Julie Rae Powers to discuss her book Deep Ruts and the deeply personal journey of self-discovery that shaped it. As an artist from Appalachia, Julie shares how her work explores themes of identity, belonging, and vulnerability. Tune in to hear how art became a tool for…
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Dr. Persuasion joins me to talk about marketing and building buzz
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What a fun episode! Yaniv Zaid is my guest today. We had a great time! Yaniv's new book is called 'The 21st Century Sales Bible' and it will help you sell more tickets, services, and products of all kinds. Authenticy is the key to success in the 21st century and we cover what that means exactly. Trust. Relevance. Balance. At the core of Dr. Zaid's …
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The Art of Missing Out: How FOMO is Revolutionizing Arts Attendance
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In this episode of ARTS Redefined, Angela Meleca speaks with Professor Jim O'Connell, a seasoned arts management expert, about the transformative power of the arts and the challenges of audience development in a changing landscape. They discuss the unique role of empathy in defining the arts, the ephemeral nature of live performance, and the import…
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Art as Identity in Appalachia with Amanda Page
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In this episode of ARTS Redefined, I sit down with Amanda Page—author, filmmaker, and founder of Scioto Literary—to explore how living authentically fuels mental health and creativity. We dive into the power of art to revitalize communities, especially in rural Appalachia, and discuss how family support, humanities interventions, and shifting the a…
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Steve Cook teaches me how to view current trends in tickets...(Republish)
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I'm reposting my conversation with Steve. The original show notes didn't publish only my bulleted notes about what I wanted to say. I had some bad weather in my area and the disruption in internet and power threw me for a loop. Enjoy a picture of the tree that fell in my driveway. My guest today is Steve Cook. Steve is CEO of TCG Entertainment. We …
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Strategy 101: Foundations of Strategy
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Hi! I'm creating a class called "Markets and Competition: Strategy for Modern Times" and as I'm putting it together, I want to share the journey with you. Today, I recorded a quick webinar called "Strategy 101". In this webinar, we talked about 7 ideas that I think will give you a strong foundation in strategy. My 5 question strategy framework Why …
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Why Creativity is Your Most Important Business Skill
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In this episode, Todd Stuart, Program Director of Arts Management, Arts Entrepreneurship at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, explores the evolving landscape of arts management education and the growing need for collaboration between artistic disciplines and business practices. He discusses the skills gap in traditional arts education, emphasizing …
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Unlocking Creativity: Overcoming Challenges and Redefining Art
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In this episode, I speak with Susie DeVille, author of Buoyant, about the power of creativity in overcoming challenges and fostering innovation. We explore how creativity is accessible to everyone, its transformative role in personal and professional growth, and the importance of engaging boards and stakeholders in the arts through storytelling a…
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Experience the New Renaissance: How Today's Art is Redefining Creativity
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In this episode, Angela and Christy Farnbaugh explore the shifting landscape of arts funding and the critical need for organizations to showcase their public value. They discuss how empathy and creativity can serve as essential metrics for impact and emphasize the power of storytelling in arts advocacy. Addressing barriers to participation and evol…
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Accessibility of Art: A U.S. Challenge
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In this episode, Angela talks with Benjamin Adda about the differences in how art is experienced in France compared to the U.S. Ben shares insights on making art more accessible, integrating it into daily life, and shifting away from the notion that art is just for the elite. Gain a fresh perspective on fostering audience engagement and redefining …
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Bridging the Gap: Technology and the Arts
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In this episode, we explore how technology can revolutionize arts administration and management with Brett Crawford, co-author of "Raising the Curtain." We delve into the challenges arts organizations face in leveraging technology, from internal communications to audience engagement, and discuss how the right tools and strategies can streamline ope…
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How Fashion Builds Community and Creates Pathways
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I sit down with Yogi Terrell from the Columbus Fashion Alliance to explore the powerful connection between culture, economic development, and the arts. We discuss how investing in authentic culture can drive sustainable growth, create opportunities for underserved communities, and build ecosystems that fuel creativity and innovation. Together, we r…
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Measuring Arts Impact in Rural Communities
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In this episode, Elise Kiefer discusses the unique challenges and opportunities of managing rural arts organizations. She emphasizes the importance of adopting strategies tailored to rural communities, focusing on mission-driven fundraising and community engagement. Elise also explores how redefining the arts in rural areas and measuring impact bey…
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Transforming the Corporate World with Visual Literacy
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Explore how visual literacy is transforming corporate safety and performance in this episode with Doug Pontsler, Chairman of the Center for Visual Expertise (COVE). Doug shares his journey from industry executive to arts advocate, revealing how COVE’s museum-based workshops use art education to enhance workplace safety protocols. Learn how these in…
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Angela Meleca wants us to look at "Return on Arts"
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My guest today is Angela Meleca. What a great conversation. We got into a really interesting conversation about: Arts' business models Funding Arts as a business The public value of the arts Framing conversations Measuring the impact of arts And, much more! You can find Angela on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angelapmeleca Meleca Creative A…
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Measuring Impact for the Arts: A Culture Shift
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How can data-driven measurement transform the arts sector? In this episode, Angela Meleca talks with Sheri Chaney Jones, founder of Sure Impact, about the challenges and importance of quantifying the social value of the arts. Discover how innovative tools can help nonprofits tell a new story—one that redefines the arts as essential drivers of socia…
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Why ARTS Redefined? Meet Angela Meleca
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Summary Arts Redefined is a podcast that aims to shift the narrative around the arts and demonstrate their public value. The host, Angela P. Meleca, introduces the podcast as a platform for leading a movement to redefine the arts and make them resonate on a deeper level. The podcast will feature conversations with industry leaders and innovative th…
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Join host Angela P. Meleca in ARTS Redefined, the podcast that discusses the arts while reshaping their perceptions and values. Designed for arts professionals, advocates, and educators, this podcast offers practical strategies to help you quantify impact, articulate value, and elevate your organization’s relevance. Join weekly to be part of a move…
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Stephen Glicken updates us on Project Admission
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My guest today is Stephen Glicken from Project Admission. You have heard from Stephen before, but I wanted to have a chat about what Project Admission has been working on... Including new areas of focus and big new partnership announcements. This episode was delayed due to a personal situation. So the references to visiting them at the Tessitura co…
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A Secutix super episode about technology, customer experience, and tickets...
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I have two guests today: David Hornby and Michael McDermott. David is the Managing Director Northern Europe, UK, and Ireland for SecuTix and Michale McDermott is the General Manager of the Americas for SecuTix. We had a really great conversation that hit on a ton of really great ideas and concepts. In this episode, we talk about: Tech and change in…
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Brian Hess explains "sports washing" to me and you!
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Brian Hess is back! We are talking sports washing. I thought I had a better grasp on the subject than I did. But Brian discusses the many ways that sports washing presents a challenge to sports fans in America, outside of the obvious ones. We discuss the possibility of foreign investment in the NFL, LIV, and more. We also hit on the way that these …
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Sabrina Carrazzo is a fantastic teacher, PR person, and leader!
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I loved this conversation because I totally got Sabrina Carrazzo worked up about teaching, women's sports, and helping international soccer teams enter the US market. Sabrina and Asli Pelit teach a sports PR and communications class at NYU. They invited me to give a guest lecture earlier in the year. I loved the way that Sabrina nurtured, challenge…
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Jason Velez sells baseball in NYC and isn't competing head to head with any of the bigger teams...
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My guest today is Jason Velez from the Staten Island Ferry Hawks. I've known Jason for a long time. So long that he has one of the OG Dave business cards. So, it was great to catch up with Jason. We hit on 3 big topics in this episode: Selling based on value Competing with bigger brands and bigger teams Unique promotions We talk about the Ferry Haw…
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Lauren Teague talks about 'second fan fashion'
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Lauren Teague returns! Lauren is the CEO of FanWgn. She has created an idea that is called "Second Fan Fashion" and it is very cool. FanWgn ties together a few of Lauren's favorite things: Sports Fashion Tech Sustainability In this episode, we talk about Lauren's career path and how she went from an employee to a sole business to a founder. We hit …
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Chris Pantani teaches us that brand activations still matter
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My guest today is Chris Pantani. Chris is the GM of the NY Mavericks of the Professional Bull Riders. We talk about bull riding and why there is now a professional bull riding team representing New York City. I find out that there is a long history of professional bull riding in NYC. We also talk about the makeup of bullriding, the history of the s…
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Let's celebrate the 200th episode of 'The Business of Fun'
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Today is the 200th episode of 'The Business of Fun' podcast! You didn't think I would not have something special prepared, did you? I will share some lessons learned and some things I'm thinking about and paying attention to. You can come work with me in NYC on September 4th, 2024...I've recreated 'Fans For Life' for the current world we live in. F…
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Solene Jimenez teaches us about the culture of sales in the arts...
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My guest today is Solene Jimenez. She is Head of International Development for arenametrix. www.arenametrix.com This is Solene's first podcast appearance and we had a good time. Of course, she didn't tell me it was her first podcast until we'd finished recording. I like to make the first podcast appearance fun and easy for folks. We talked about cu…
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Alasdair Crawley says sports business is at a crossroads...
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I have a good conversation for you today with Alasdair Crawley from FanBase. We had a great time talking about sports business including: Why sports business is at a crossroads. The challenge of getting the basics right. Data v. research Balancing the short term and long term in fanbase building. The power of experience... And, much more. I'm going…
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Dr. Bijoy John Teaches Us About Our Superpower: SLEEP!
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I haven't always been a champion sleeper. Like a lot of my friends, I haven't always had a regular bedtime due to work, school, social life, whatever. In college, at the University of Alabama, I couldn't be torn from the things going on in my dorm. I was so excited to see everything...I didn't want to miss a thing. Later on, I was working 3 or more…
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Brian Hess doesn't put much validity in the numbers of the proposed new Northern VA arena.
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Today's episode is personal because it is about the proposed arena in Northern VA. My guest is Brian Hess from I Street Advisors. Like me, Brian lives in the area. We discuss the arena at length: The nature of the market and where attendance comes from. Public subsidies. The 50/50 bet at the heart of the deal. Whether or not the District's offer to…
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Jeffrey Shaw teaches me how selling eggs explains positioning...
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Jeffrey Shaw, author of The Self-Employed Life, teaches me some great lessons about positioning, strategy, marketing, branding, and sales. Listen and find out how selling eggs explains all of this. I'm hosting a FREE strategy webinar on 31 January 2024 at 11 AM Eastern called 'Beyond Boom and Bust'. Join the 'Talking Tickets' Slack Channel. Send me…
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This is a me episode with a recording of my 'First Wednesday with Dave' session from December where we talk about planning for 2024. I'm hosting a FREE strategy webinar on 31 January 2024 at 11 AM Eastern called 'Beyond Boom and Bust'. Join the 'Talking Tickets' Slack Channel. Send me your questions about driving attendance in 2024. I'm going to us…
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What Do Brokers Really Want to See When a Ticket Goes On Sale?
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"What do scalpers really like to see when a ticket goes on-sale?" That question popped up in my inbox about a week ago. It got me thinking about the questions that people ask me when they want to know how to "stop" the secondary market or whether or not to work with the secondary market. So, I had Martin Haigh from Total Tickets come on to discuss …
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Have You Ever Worried That Your Website or Experience Isn't Accessible Enough?
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My guest today, Caspian Turner, helps me answer that question and shows us how you can take some easy steps to solve the problem for yourself. I want you to be more a part of 'The Business of Fun'. What does that mean? Send me your questions about strategy: Is there an issue you are constantly struggling with? Is there something going on in your bu…
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The TiqAssist guys teach us about how understanding fans' pain can lead to opportunity!
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I've got the TiqAssist guys on today. Chris Babu and Jamie Zimmerman. www.tiqassist.com We got into a bunch of stuff like: How feeling pain as STHs led them to start TiqAssist. Jumping careers to get into sports. The "strain" of resale for season ticket holders. The cash offer that TiqAssist makes to help make people have a bit more "peace of mind"…
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Drew McManus says "one size fits none" is a bad idea...
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My guest today is Drew McManus from UpStage CRM: www.upstagecrm.io We had a great time catching up in Seattle at INTIX and now we've gone and done a podcast! We hit on a lot of topics like what led Drew to start UpStage. I put Drew on the spot and make him define "one size fits none". We discuss where he gets his ideas from. Why focusing on the min…
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Brain Bump will make you smarter...
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I have Mark Herschberg back today to talk about his new app, Brain Bump. This is a really cool tool that lets you bring learning with you wherever you are. I've been taking part in the launch and it enables me to provide bite sized nuggets and insights to you so that you can access the ideas that you want to use when you need them. Check out my fri…
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Paul Bailey teaches me how to make Brand Purpose meaningful and not BS...
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I'm talking with Paul Bailey from Halo in Bristol, UK today. We are discussing brand and this is a great one because we set out to hit on a few really important topics: Research Brand Purpose Top of Funnel Activity Paul was kind enough to come on to be the first guest to talk about brand exclusively so that I would have some conversations that I di…
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Christy Grantham goes to INTIX because it is an answer to burnout...
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My final conversation from the floor of INTIX at the Booking Protect booth. This time I catch up with friend of the podcast, Christy Grantham. We talk about why she goes to INTIX. Christy talks about how INTIX helps her learn about new tech, new ideas, and avoid burnout. One of the important things Christy learned was around the shift from "no refu…
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Casey Thomas calls me a snazzy dresser!
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Here's another conversation live from the Cover Genius booth at INTIX 2023 in Seattle with Casey Thomas of AudienceView. We talk about what Casey likes about INTIX. We hit on things she's learned. And, why we are snazzy dressers. Check out AudienceView at www.audienceview.com Hook up with my friends at Cover Genius and find out how they've helped f…
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Angela Higgins live from the Cover Genius booth at INTIX 2023
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I did some quick podcast conversations at INTIX that I loosely called, "8 minutes at INTIX" from the Cover Genius booth. This first one is with Angela Higgins. Along with Jo Michel, Angela does the Ticketing Professionals Conference of Australia. The conference is in October this year. Check out my friends at Cover Genius: www.CoverGenius.com We di…
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Chris Furnell teaches us how we can make change stick in our organizations.
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REPOST WITH REPAIRED FILE Totally new idea this week. Chris Furnell offered up the idea of a conversation centered entirely on the process of change and making change stick in our organizations. I jumped at the chance because I've been talking with y'all about change for years. So we dug in deep on change. We cover things like: Dealing with constan…
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