Javier Saade hosts lightning round talks with amazing people at the top of their games. Meet impactful leaders, thinkers and doers from all walks of life pushing humankind forward. Gain valuable perspective on what makes them tick and use these insights in your life and work. Episodes are ~15 minutes in length. Bite-sized talks packed with Super-sized insights. Longer conversations occasionally @ Top of The Game (in} Overtime. Available on all major platforms.
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In-depth interview podcast with leading corporate governance experts, including world-class founders, scholars, board members, executives, investors and more. The content is structured as a long-form conversation to explore not only the latest corporate governance trends, but also to get some personal insights from some of the best and brightest minds behind America's boardrooms.
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066 A.I. Experiment| what's to come (4/5)
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TOTG EXPERIMENTAL SERIES BY A.I. // POLICY, POLITICS, POLLS This is the fourth of five (4/5) from our “Experimental Series by A.I.”. The machine talks about policy, politics and the upcoming election.. We gave NotebookLM a few disparate inputs and the machine created this great conversation. GENERAL INFO| TOP OF THE GAME: Official website: https://…
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Wolfe Tone & Heather Gates (Deloitte): Insights on Private Company Governance
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(0:00) Intro (1:12) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (1:59) Start of interview. (2:57) Heather Gates' "origin story." (5:17) Wolfe Tone's "origin story." (10:23) On the governance of privately-owned businesses. Distinction with having "outside investors." (15:20) On the nuances of family-owned businesses. *Refe…
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065 Seth Levine| capitalist evolving capitalism
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SETH LEVINE Seth is co-founder and general partner at Boulder-based Foundry. He and his firm have invested in hundreds of companies and funds around the world. A driving force for Seth has always been the power at the intersection of community and business. He co-founded Pledge 1%, a global network of companies who have pledged equity, time, and pr…
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Valeria Café: Leading Governance Innovation in Brazil as IBGC CEO
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(0:00) Intro. (1:20) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (2:06) Start of interview. (3:20) Valeria's origin story. (6:14) On joining IBGC, its mission and focus: governance training, research, and regulatory work with CVM, B3, Congress, etc. (9:03) On the 25th IBGC Annual Summit. (11:11) On the state of ESG in Bra…
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064 Bismarck Lepe| throttling growth engines
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BISMARCK LEPE Bismarck is Founder and Executive Chairman at Wizeline. He is a seasoned Silicon Valley entrepreneur and investor. He founded Wizeline in 2014 with the mission to help companies build better products faster by making innovation accessible to all organizations. Bismarck is Mexican-American and the son of two immigrants from a small tow…
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Barry Lawson Williams: Addressing Board Refreshment—"the Most Pressing Issue in Corporate Governance Today"
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(0:00) Intro. (1:26) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (2:13) Start of interview. (3:03) Barry's origin story. (7:00) Barry's board journey. (9:39) On distinctions between serving on public and private company boards: "you have the same fiduciary duties." (11:57) Evolution of boards in the last 30-40 years: "the…
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063 A.I. Experiment| what's to come (3/5)
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TOTG EXPERIMENTAL SERIES BY A.I. // FOOD & WORLD CUISINES This is the third of five from our “Experimental Series by A.I.” The machine talks about different cuisines and dishes from around the world and why it’s so hard to pick a favorite, but it tries its best to digest all the articles and perspectives. We gave NotebookLM the inputs below and A.I…
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062 A.I. Experiment| what's to come (2/5)
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TOTG EXPERIMENTAL SERIES BY A.I. // ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE This is the second of five from our “Experimental Series by A.I.” It is particularly interesting because it’s an A.I. generated conversation about A.I., the promise and peril of our relentless march towards AI → AGI (general) → eventually ASI (super). Top Of The Game fed Google’s NotebookL…
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Boardroom Diversity and the Black Corporate Board Readiness Program
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(0:00) Intro. (1:25) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (2:11) Start of interview. (2:56) Zain Oke's origin story. (5:08) Dianna Jones's origin story. (8:25) Dennis Lanham's origin story. (12:00) How executive education works (as opposed to degree conferring programs) (14:22) On the origin and mission of the Blac…
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061 A.I. Experiment| what’s to come (1/5)
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TOTG EXPERIMENTAL SERIES BY A.I. // CAPITALISM Top Of The Game (TOTG) fed Google’s NotebookLM a few documents, one of them: Milton Friedman's September 1970 essay, "The Social Responsibility of Business Is to Increase Its Profits.". We also fed it a few published recently looking at the viability of the profit maximization a.k.a. shareholder primac…
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TOM SOTO BIO Tom has been in the impact investing game for a long time. He was born and raised in East LA to two of the state’s most well-respected Latino Civil Rights leaders. His dad was Assemblyman Phil Soto, the first Latino elected to the state legislature in 1962. His mom was Nell Soto, she too served the last ten years of her life as a membe…
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Maggie Wilderotter: Strategic Oversight and the Attributes of Great Directors
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Peter Gleason: CEO of NACD on 2024 Board Practices and Oversight Surveys – Trends and Takeaways
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(0:00) Intro. (1:23) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (2:10) Start of interview. *Reference to prior episode with Peter (E83 from Jan 2023). (3:00) NACD Surveys on Board Practices and Oversight: Private Company Results and Public Company Results. (3:44) 1/ On Technology Oversight: "We are seeing boards go after…
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059 Ileana Musa| wealth with purpose
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ILEANA MUSA BIO Ileana is Morgan Stanley’s Co-Head of International Wealth Management and the Head of International Banking & Lending. In these roles she leads the segment and strategy that focuses on Morgan Stanley’s International Client Advisors and international clients to ensure they have access to strategic solutions, services and thought lead…
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058 Gary Acosta| destination new mainstream
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GARY ACOSTA BIO Gary Acosta is an entrepreneur, public policy advocate, and investor. He is the Co-Founder & CEO of the National Association of Hispanic Real Estate Professionals (NAHREP ), one of the largest Hispanic business organizations in the nation. He also created the Hispanic Wealth Project, co-founded L’ATTITUDE, and is a general partner o…
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Cedric Bru: CEO of Taulia (now part of SAP) on Boardroom Dynamics and the Value of Teamwork
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057 Eduardo Peñalver| the knowledge pursuit
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EDUARDO PEÑALVER BIO Eduardo M. Peñalver is President of Seattle University and previously served as the Dean of Cornell Law School. A coming home of sorts given his formative years were spent in Puyallup and Tacoma. Professor Peñalver’s legal scholarship focuses on property and land use, as well as law and religion. His work explores the way in wh…
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Cesar was a civil rights, Latino, farm worker, and labor leader; a religious and spiritual figure; a community servant and social entrepreneur; a crusader for nonviolent social change; and an environmentalist and consumer advocate. In 1968, Chavez gained attention as leader of a nationwide boycott of California table grapes in a drive to achieve la…
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Yvonne Wassenaar: On Boardroom Dynamics and Trends from Silicon Valley
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(0:00) Intro. (1:03) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (1:50) Start of interview. *Reference to E137 with Coco Brown (CEO of Athena Alliance). (2:47) Yvonne's origin story. (5:49) Her executive career starting with Accenture, and later with VMware, New Relic, and CEO of Airware and Puppet. (9:03) On her board jo…
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056 Evan Epstein| boardroom governance leadership
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NOTE This episode is the first dual release show for Top Of The Game. It was produced by and originally released on Evan Epstein's podcast, Boardroom Governance, on August 26, 2024. Our host enjoyed the tables being turned on him and being a guest, The conversation covers a broad range of topics: leadership, capitalism, boards, technology (AI), mac…
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Javier Saade: From Capital Formation to Governance, plus his Top of the Game
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(0:00) Intro. (1:15) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (2:02) Start of interview. (2:49) Javier's origin story. (4:31) The blurring lines between VC and PE. Cross-over investors, growth equity investors, and other "alternative" financing. (9:01) On the capital formation cycle. Impact of interest-rates in capital…
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bonus| kennedy's state of the union 🇺🇸
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This bonus episode is President John F. Kennedy's first state of the union address to Congress on January 30, 1961, 10 days after his inauguration. It is also 13 days after President Eisenhower gave his farewell address and which this podcast released two weeks ago on August 7, 2024. It will be interesting for listeners to hear the two speeches bac…
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055 Luis Miranda Jr| relentless forward movement
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LUIS MIRANDA BIO Luis Antonio Miranda Concepción is a political strategist, philanthropist, advocacy consultant and author, his latest book: "Relentless: My Story of the Latino Spirit That Is Transforming America” with a foreword by his son, Lin-Manuel Miranda. Luis was born and raised in Puerto Rico and moved to NYC at 19 when he received a schola…
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bonus| eisenhower's farewell address 🇺🇸
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This bonus episode is President Dwight D. Eisenhower's farewell address to the nation on January 17, 1961 - three days before JFK's inauguration. When the United States entered WWII, Dwight D. Eisenhower was the Chief of Staff for the Third Army. Less than four years later, he was a 5-star general who commanded millions of soldiers, sailors, and ai…
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Carol Hansell: Insights on Modern Governance
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(0:00) Intro. (1:10) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (1:57) Start of interview. (2:30) Carol's origin story. (4:34) Evolution of corporate governance in Canada since the late 1980s. (5:51) The origin and focus of her firm Hansell McLaughlin Advisory Group, based in Canada. (10:13) On her personal board career …
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054 Stacie Olivares| reimagining finance ecosystems
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STACIE OLIVARES BIO Stacie Olivares structures and optimizes funds and innovations for scaled impact. She is a board director and chief investment officer for best-in-class funds and innovative companies with oversight of $1.4 trillion in retirement funds, $29 billion of insurance industry sustainable investment, and more than $3 trillion bond issu…
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Oliver Cummings: Unlocking Boardroom Excellence - Insights from Nurole's CEO
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(0:00) Intro. (1:20) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (2:07) Start of interview. (2:58) Oliver's origin story. (7:00) His experience in private equity with PE-backed boards. (9:57) About the mission and focus of Nurole, the UK-based board search firm where he serves as CEO. (12:27) On Nurole's network of 65,000…
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053 Michael Montelongo| angels touching lives
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MICHAEL'S BIO The Honorable Michael Montelongo, a former presidential appointee and Senate-confirmed official, is a board governance and audit committee financial expert serving on the boards of Civeo Corporation (NYSE: CVEO), Conduent Inc (NASDAQ: CNDT), Palmex Ltd., and the National Association of Corporate Directors (NACD). He has a broad indust…
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Thompson Paine (Anthropic): "The Potential of AI Technology is Massive"
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(0:00) Intro. (1:05) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (1:52) Start of interview. (2:28) Thompson's origin story. (3:42) His startup work at Quizlet (joined a 5 person team) and Stripe (from 2k to 8k employees). Joined Anthropic in early 2023. (6:25) On China-US relations, and the course he teaches at Vanderbilt…
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052 Jake Bjorseth & Amanda Johansen| gen z trndsttrs
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JAKE + AMANDA = TRNDSTTRS This episode is a remarkable master class on all things Gen Z from the Founder & CEO (Jake Bjorseth) and Chief TikTok Officer (Amanda Johansen) of the largest independent marketing agency in the world focused on Gen Z → Trndsttrs. The agency was founded in 2018 and its team has some of the best GenZ content creators, socia…
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Natasha Allen: Navigating AI Regulation, Exits, and Boardroom Challenges
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(0:00) Intro (1:20) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (2:06) Start of interview. (2:37) Natasha's "origin story." (6:25) On the risks and opportunities for AI. (8:39) On the regulatory landscape of AI in the US. Reference to President Biden's Executive Order. (11:40) On California's regulation of AI (SB 1047). (…
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051 Gustavo Alberelli| smart money world
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|Show Notes| This episode was recorded in front of a live audience at The Alumni Society’s Leadership Summit in Brooklyn, NYC on June 13, 2024. It marks our show’s first ever live recording and the audio level is lower than studio quality. Also, today (July 9, 2024) happens to be our guest's birthday - happy birthday Gus! GUSTAVO’S BIO Gustavo Albe…
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bonus| Daughters of the American Revolution //July 4th💥
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Yvonne Liser is a 4th generation DC native that has been researching genealogy since the mid-1990s. Over the years of research she has met new cousins, travelled, and found how her families lived in history. Yvonne is the historian for 5 families and leads 3 genealogy DNA groups. She has discussed her remarkable family history on the PBS series Afr…
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050 Rodrigo Garcia| beacons and crossroads
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RODRIGO’S BIO Four facts: This is our 50th episode, there are 50 states in our country, 50 stars in our flag, and tomorrow is July 4th! The United States of America is celebrating its 248th birthday, which is why we decided to release this conversation today. Rodrigo Garcia is a decorated veteran of the United States Marine Corps who fought in thre…
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Tyler Shultz: Theranos Whistleblower on Fraud and Startup Governance in Silicon Valley
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(0:00) Intro (1:06) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (1:53) Start of interview. (2:37) Tyler's "origin story." (4:50) His beginnings at Theranos. (7:07) On the culture of the Theranos, "the company was extremely secretive and paranoid." (9:41) On the lack of equity compensation for Theranos employees. (10:32) O…
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049 Grace Colon| science anchored trailblazing
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GRACE’S BIO Dr. Grace Colon is multicultural in many ways, but having New Orleans and San Juan lineage in equal parts makes for an interesting array of cuisine options growing up. She has 25+ years of experience in biopharma, genomics, diagnostics, synthetic biology, healthcare and industrial biotechnology. Most recently, she served as CEO and Pres…
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Ilya Strebulaev: Venture Mindset Takeaways for Board Members.
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(0:00) Intro. (1:39) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (2:25) Start of interview. Reference to E21 with Ilya Strebulaev from October 2020. (4:01) On why he wrote his book The Venture Mindset: for decision makers in large organizations. (5:37) About the first principle: Home Runs Matter, Strikeouts Don’t. Make sm…
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048 Florian Faber| creative culture communities
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FLORIAN’S BIO Florian Faber has one of the coolest jobs in the world, he is CEO and on the Board of Directors of MCH Group, which among many endeavors owns, hosts, curates and puts together the incredible spectacles the four Art Basel shows deliver to millions. Last week, they concluded Art Basel in Basel, Switzerland, as he calls it “the mothershi…
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Greg LaBlanc: "It's Really Hard to be a Good Board Member"
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(0:00) Intro. (1:19) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (2:05) Start of interview. (2:58) Greg's "origin story." (5:31) His teaching focus. (8:04) Discussion on startups and venture capital and the era of AI. Behavioral finance and bubbles. (11:17) Bubbles in private (VC and PE) and public markets. (15:12) Stayin…
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047 Beatriz Acevedo| she's the boss
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BEATRIZ’S BIO Beatriz sometimes wears a black t-shirt with two simple words - “La Jefa”, en ingles, The Boss. And that, she has been, and continues to be as a serial founder, CEO, trailblazing, Emmy-winning remarkable woman. In her words: “In my life journey, I've always strived not just for personal achievements but to reshape narratives and champ…
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Jennifer Dulski: "To Join (Your First) Public Board, Someone Needs to Bet on You"
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046 Nick Graham| simple and complex
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NICK’S BIO Between growing up in a northern England rural town to leading global insights and analytics for one of the most successful consumer products companies in the world – a lot happens. This is the case for Nick Graham, a remarkable student of human behavior, societal trends and consumer taste. Nick studied History & French at Oxford Univers…
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Sonita Lontoh: On Board Culture, Innovation, and Creative Tension
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Coco Brown: Founder & CEO of Athena Alliance on Board Opportunities and Governance.
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(0:00) Intro. (1:14) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (2:02) Start of interview. (2:37) Coco's "origin story." (4:32) Her professional background with HR, comp and IT. (6:32) Her time at Taos, a professional services business in IT consulting (17yrs). Ultimately acquired by IBM in 2021. (8:35) The origin story …
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On Memorial Day we thank the men and women who perished defending our freedom and liberty with a beautiful rendition of God Bless America and short speeches from President Reagan and President Clinton. They touch on the values we share, things we hold dear, and our duty to remember their ultimate sacrifice. Since the American Revolutionary War (our…
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045 Michelle Caruso-Cabrera| seize the moment
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MICHELLE’S BIO Michelle Caruso-Cabrera’s three decades of experience has been anchored at the nexus of finance, economic development, and communications. Michelle was the first Latina anchor at CNBC where she is now a Contributor and also served as the network’s Chief International Correspondent for over a decade. These trailblazing roles were prec…
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Greg Gretsch: On Founder and Investor Trends from Silicon Valley.
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(0:00) Intro. (1:17) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel. (2:03) Start of interview. (3:08) Greg's "origin story." (6:53) From the University of Georgia to Apple in Cuppertino. (10:50) The start of his entrepreneurial journey in 1992 with his first company. (13:03) The boom and bust cyclical nature of Silicon Valle…
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044 Matt Hay| soundtrack of silence
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MATT’S BIO Matt’s story is remarkable for many reasons including his perseverance, resilience, grit, determination and disposition in the face of devastating circumstances. After learning he was going deaf in college, Matt decided to make a mental log of the songs that over the years connected him to the memories and moments that he most cherished.…
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Today is Sunday May 12, 2024 and every year in the US the second Sunday of May is Mothers Day. On this bonus episode I asked people two questions 1) what makes their moms amazing and remarkable and 2) what are some of the biggest lessons you learned from her? These are their answers.Af Javier Saade
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043 Dr. Elizabeth Wako| pillar of health
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ELIZABETH’S BIO NOTE| This episode is longer than usual→ ‘Top Of The Game (in) Overtime’ shows are released occasionally In between immigrating from Ethiopia to America as a three-month old to running one of the largest healthcare systems in the country, a lot happens. In Dr. Wako’s case: she was a nurse who became a doctor who ended up being chief…
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