Disrupting ESG: The Need for Transparency and Openness with Frank Meehan from OpenESG

The NatureBacked Podcast

Introduction:

• Host Tarmo Virki welcomes listeners to "NatureBacked," a show discussing the green economy.
• Guest speaker Frank Meehan from openESG, joins the conversation. Frank Meehan is a seasoned investor and co-founder of SPARKlabs, an investment firm focused on climate, food, and agricultural tech solutions. He also co-founded Equilibrium.ai, acquired by Fiscal Note, and works with openESG, a company transforming ESG ratings and showcasing systems.

Discussion Highlights:

Frank's Background in ESG:

• Frank shares his experience in the ESG space, spanning seven years of investing in climate, food, and agriculture.
• He highlights the evolution of his firm and his involvement in managing global ESG data through equilibrium.ai.

The Current State of ESG:

• Frank observes a significant focus on environmental sustainability and explains how even companies seemingly disconnected from ESG are actively pursuing sustainable practices.
• He mentions the need for transparency and highlights a case involving child labour in a chemical plant and the impact on Blackstone's reputation.
• The discussion emphasizes the existing challenges in the ESG space, including the influence of the old-fashioned certification process and lack of transparency.

The Need for Change and Disruption:

• Frank draws parallels between the ESG space and the taxi industry before Uber, emphasizing the closed-shop mentality and lack of transparency.
• Frank discusses the importance of transparency, openness, and rewarding positive progress in the ESG industry.
• They mention the role of media in exposing greenwashing practices and the potential for journalists to utilize public ESG data for impactful reporting.

Introduction to openESG and Its vision:

• Frank explains the purpose of openESG, which aims to revolutionize ESG ratings and make them dynamic, open, and free.
• He describes the role of AI and web 3.0 principles in the openESG system, ensuring transparency, real-time data, and verifiability.
• The conversation highlights the importance of accelerating positive change in ESG and the role of data in measuring and improving sustainability practices.

Challenges and Opportunities Ahead:

• The discussion touches on the challenges openESG may face, with Frank expressing the hope to keep up with the evolving industry.
• They emphasize the need to transition from manual, form-based systems to digital, AI-driven processes for faster and more accurate ESG assessments.

Conclusion:

• Frank and Tarmo conclude the discussion by reiterating the need for change, transparency, and openness in the ESG space.
• They discuss the potential positive impact of openESG and the industry's growing recognition of the importance of ESG principles.

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