What If Fixing Code Wasn’t Your Job Anymore? | Jonathan Schneider & Moderne

The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

Jonathan Schneider, co-founder and CEO of Moderne, joins Simon Maple to share how real engineering teams are using Moderne’s rewrite engine to reduce technical debt at the source, and drive org-wide transformation.
On the docket:

• the hard limit LLMs can’t scale past
• why OpenRewrite uses a declarative framework
• the real challenge: accessing the compiler’s truth

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Kapitler

1. Trailer (00:00:00)

2. Introduction (00:01:10)

3. Founding story – park-bench coding to Miami HQ (00:04:10)

4. Netflix days: birth of OpenRewrite (00:07:30)

5. The 40% maintenance tax and recipe catalog (00:10:40)

6. Why AI alone isn’t enough – deterministic rewrites (00:13:50)

7. Push-based vs pull-based change and mass PRs (00:17:00)

8. Data-table impact analysis across thousands of repos (00:20:51)

9. LLM agents tapping a 5-billion-line code lake via MCP (00:24:21)

10. Security fixes, vulnerability repair & large-scale migrations (00:28:51)

11. Roadmap, new languages, how to try Moderne (00:33:21)

12. Closing (00:36:08)