Sara Bareilles: Putting on a ‘Brave’ Face | #09

The Harder to Breathe Podcast

For today’s episode of “Harder to Breathe'', host and former drummer of “Maroon 5” Ryan Dusick is joined by co-host and actor Brian “Duck” Maillard for a discussion with one of the most accomplished singer/song-writers working in the music industry today. Her reputation speaks for itself, and even if you don’t know her, you have certainly heard her music. It's the iconic Sara Bareilles.

Sara has spent years balancing the challenges inherent to finding a space in the music industry, and she goes into generous detail about the anxiety and depression she has faced at different points in her life throughout the process. She is a huge advocate for mental health, and while she remains as aspirational as ever, she has also found the importance of saying “No” and creating a safe space in her mind to avoid burnout.

Ryan and Sara have a fascinating shared history that dates back to their early days at UCLA. It culminates in a genuine and heartfelt apology from Ryan that is one of the most touching and truthful moments on the Harder to Breathe Podcast to date.

Never to be left out, Duck also gets the chance to put on his “fan” hat for a moment and ask some questions regarding Sara’s musical theater career, including what she’s working on next… including a new Broadway musical adaptation of “The Interestings”, a new album, AND several upcoming performances at the iconic Hollywood Bowl music venue featuring a full orchestra.

In just an hour, the three share so many incredible moments, and it’s hard not to come away from the discussion feeling great satisfaction that so much success has come to such a lovely person in Grammy Award Winner, and Tony/Emmy nominee Sara Bareilles.

0:00:00 Introduction & Duck’s New Gear

0:00:57 Today’s Guest: Sara Bareilles

0:03:50 Inspirational AND Aspirational

0:05:00 The value of Sara’s Song “Brave”

0:06:00 Sara’s Life and Impact Outside Her Art

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0:09:48 Sara Bareilles Joins the Podcast

0:12:10 Fear is an Indicator

0:13:49 Ryan and Sara’s History at UCLA and Beyond

0:19:38 How Therapy Has Opened Sara Up to Embracing Fear

0:21:00 When the Decision to Start Therapy Came About

0:22:57 The Work & Connecting with Your Partner

0:27:51 What Causes the “Walls” Against Intimacy

0:30:12 Navigating Being a People Pleaser alongside Business

0:33:56 “No” is a Full Sentence

0:35:27 Ryan’s Apology to Sara

0:39:40 Challenges When Shifting From “Aspiring” to “Being”

0:44:27 Duck’s Connection to Musical Theater and “Waitress”

0:45:42 Did Sara Feel the Need to Prove Herself in the Theater Space?

0:49:06 Connections Between the Roles Sara Plays on Stage

0:51:57 Sara’s Next Broadway Project: “The Interestings”

0:53:47 Upcoming Full Orchestra Performances

0:56:32 From Cafes to the Hollywood Bowl

0:58:13 Wrap Up & Conclusion

More on Sara Bareilles:

https://sarabmusic.com/main/ - Official Website

https://tour.sarabmusic.com/ - Upcoming Tour Dates

https://www.instagram.com/sarabareilles/ - Official Instagram

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WWSG Speaker Page - https://wwsg.com/speakers/ryan-dusick/

Psychology Today Therapist Profile - https://www.psychologytoday.com/profile/937599

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