Should web development need a build step?

JS Party: JavaScript, CSS, Web Development

We’re back with another spicy YepNope debate! This time, Nick & regular guest Eric Clemmons are arguing that web development should need a build step, while KBall & special guest Amy Dutton argue that we really shouldn’t. Of course, the stance each panelist is taking is assigned ahead of time. Is that how they really feel? Tune in to find out!

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Featuring:

• Amy Dutton – Twitter, GitHub
• Kevin Ball – Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website
• Eric Clemmons – Twitter, GitHub
• Nick Nisi – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, Website
• Jerod Santo – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn

Show Notes:

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1. It's party time, y'all (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Clerk (00:00:39)

https://clerk.com

3. Hello party people! (00:03:58)

4. The premise (00:06:00)

5. Amy's opener (00:06:50)

6. Eric's opener (00:07:53)

7. KBall's opener (00:08:53)

8. Nick's opener (00:10:09)

9. Amy's rebuttal (00:11:45)

10. Eric's rebuttal (00:13:04)

11. KBall's rebuttal (00:14:01)

12. Eric's final argument (00:16:11)

13. Amy's final argument (00:17:47)

14. And the winner is... (00:18:38)

15. Sponsor: CrabNebula Cloud (00:19:48)

https://crabnebula.dev/devtools/

16. KBall's real opinion (00:22:38)

17. Eric's real opinion (00:25:17)

18. Nick's real opinion (00:28:03)

19. Amy's real opinion (00:31:12)

20. Jerod's real opinion (00:32:03)

21. All we need is love (00:33:26)

22. A SPA era phenomenon? (00:33:55)

23. 13MB React app woes (00:35:55)

24. Define "pushing to the left" (00:37:00)

25. PHP is better than... (00:38:43)

26. Obligatory AI chapter (00:41:40)

27. Pimp My Sidebar (00:42:16)

28. The no-build gap vs aspirations (00:43:41)

29. Shifting left of the platform (00:47:24)

30. Defining system boundaries (00:51:25)

31. Defining system responsibility (00:54:13)

32. Relying on the tools (00:56:18)

33. Thinking about HTTP (00:57:05)

34. Broadening our horizons (01:01:20)

35. FInal thoughts (01:02:57)

36. Closing time (01:03:59)

37. Outro (join ++!) (01:04:59)

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