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32. Alligator with Charlie O'Connor
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Charlie (The Athletic, @charlieo_conn) joins the podcast to talk about The National's 2005 album "Alligator" and how it set the band up on a path to eventually work with Taylor Swift. Aside from the album, Charlie and Thomas talk about Claude Giroux, writing about and describing music, and other cool stuff.
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