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When a young Eva Kollisch arrives as a refugee in New York in 1940, she finds a community among socialists who share her values and idealism. She soon discovers ‘the cause’ isn’t as idyllic as it seems. Little does she know this is the beginning of a lifelong commitment to activism and her determination to create radical change in ways that include belonging, love and one's full self. In addition to Eva Kollisch’s memoirs Girl in Movement (2000) and The Ground Under My Feet (2014), LBI’s collections include an oral history interview with Eva conducted in 2014 and the papers of Eva’s mother, poet Margarete Kolllisch, which document Eva’s childhood experience on the Kindertransport. Learn more at www.lbi.org/kollisch . Exile is a production of the Leo Baeck Institute , New York | Berlin and Antica Productions . It’s narrated by Mandy Patinkin. Executive Producers include Katrina Onstad, Stuart Coxe, and Bernie Blum. Senior Producer is Debbie Pacheco. Associate Producers are Hailey Choi and Emily Morantz. Research and translation by Isabella Kempf. Sound design and audio mix by Philip Wilson, with help from Cameron McIver. Theme music by Oliver Wickham. Voice acting by Natalia Bushnik. Special thanks to the Kollisch family for the use of Eva’s two memoirs, “Girl in Movement” and “The Ground Under My Feet”, the Sophia Smith Collection at Smith College and their “Voices of Feminism Oral History Project”, and Soundtrack New York.…

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As In Heaven, hosted by Jim Davis and Michael Aitcheson, is a new podcast in The Gospel Coalition podcast network. Each episode seeks to glean insights from a wide variety of people doing strategic work in their cities and communities. Jesus taught us to pray “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.” Our prayer is that our spheres of influence would be places that look more like God’s kingdom—where love reigns, humanity flourishes, and Christ is glorified.

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Introducing: The Everyday Pastor 1:02

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The Everyday Pastor is a new podcast from TGC on the nuts and bolts of ministry. Hosted by Ligon Duncan, with nearly 20 years of pastoral experience, and Matt Smethurst, who planted a church three years ago, it seeks to model how ministers of different generations, levels of experience, and even denominations can apply God’s never-changing Word in a fast-changing world. It’s not an easy time to be a pastor, but it’s an exciting one—because the Lord is on his throne and his Word is enough to help us navigate the trenches of ministry with fortitude and joy. So join Matt and Lig (and special guests along the way) as they seek to help you think wisely about nitty-gritty issues of everyday ministry. Don't miss an episode of The Everyday Pastor ! Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts , Spotify, or wherever you listen. Help The Gospel Coalition build up a renewed church for tomorrow. Let's Build Together: Donate Today at tgc.org/together…

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Top Theology Stories of 2023 with Collin Hansen and Melissa Kruger 1:30:34

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Join Collin Hansen and Melissa Kruger for their annual recap discussion on the biggest stories affecting the church around the world in the last year. This conversation was originally featured on TGC's Gospelbound podcast.

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Trevin Wax on Reconstructing Faith 45:01

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In this final season episode of As in Heaven, Jim Davis and Michael Graham are joined by Trevin Wax to discuss what it looks like to help individuals reconstruct their faith and for evangelicals—as a movement—to rebuild their witness. This episode is part of As in Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, order The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis. Recommended resource: Reconstructing Faith with Trevin Wax (podcast)…

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How to Be a Missional and Confessional Church That Motivates People for Faithful Ministry 55:59

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In this final episode of season three of As in Heaven, hosts Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson welcome Irwyn Ince to discuss the value of churches that seek to be both missional and confessional. When churches seek to hold both of these things in harmony, they become places that people won't want to leave. Episode time stamps: Episode and guest introduction (0:00) Confessional versus missional theology (3:43) Why is the language of mission so important? (9:53) The ground level of orthodoxy (18:00) An overflow of the doctrine of the Trinity (25:03) The polarization of the church and culture (32:30) The significance of Biblical ethics (37:36) The multifaceted glory of the essence of God (42:55) Practical ways to apply a missional mindset (49:15) This episode is part of As in Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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How to Faithfully Engage the Dechurched Movement as a Church in Exile 54:18

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In this episode of As in Heaven , hosts Jim Davis and Michael Graham welcome Jake Meador to discuss the merits of having a posture of a "church in exile." They explore how this exilic posture could help us close the back door of the church and regain our prophetic voice. Episode time stamps: Episode and guest introduction (0:00) Moving from empire to exile (4:37) Centrality of patience (11:38) Role of attention in a digital age (16:53) Advantages of living in a state of exile (23:08) Learning from others across broader church history (29:41) Advice for clergy and business owners in secular workplaces (36:11) Relational wisdom in a low-trust environment (43:31) This episode is part of As In Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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Perspectives on American Dechurching from Post-Christian Europe 46:36

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In this episode of As In Heaven, hosts Jim Davis and Michael Graham welcome Andrew Wilson and Glen Scrivener to discuss European perspectives on dechurching in America, drawing from insights in the UK, Australia, and Italy to compare and contrast the dechurching movement. Episode time stamps: Episode and topic introduction (0:00) Losing cultural prestige and normativity in the states (7:02) The benefits of standing up to the cultural tide (12:25) The difference between secular traditional and secular progressive (15:39) Britain, Italy, and the catholic vs. protestant split (19:03) David Goodhart and nationalism (22:22) The difference between exile and sojourning (25:49) What’s the state of the church in 2024? (35:40) Final thoughts and encouragement (41:20) This episode is part of As in Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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The Challenges of Ministering Well Amid the Waves of a Divisive Culture 50:27

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In this episode of As In Heaven , hosts Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson welcome Robert Cunningham to discuss the complexities of our ever-shifting culture. They share insights into pastoring through election cycles, polarizing cultural moments, and how not to grow weary. Episode time stamps: Episode and topic introduction (0:00) The impact of cultural issues on the dechurching phenomenon (7:31) How can we bring people back to the church? (14:46) Pastoring through cultural changes (19:06) What does it look like to switch churches? (27:59) What role does the pastor play in shaping members for this cultural moment? (32:27) Pastors are tired. How can they care for themselves well? (41:16) This episode is part of As in Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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How Pastors Can Preach Effectively in Light of the Dechurching Movement 53:14

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In this episode of As in Heaven , Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson welcome Sam Allberry and Michael Keller to discuss preaching in light of the dechurched phenomenon. The guests share insights from their own preaching preparation, cultural insights from their context, and how they question cultural assumptions. Episode time stamps: Episode and topic introduction (0:00) The role of preaching in worship (3:15) How do you break the ice with new members? (8:55) The process of preparing for a sermon (13:32) The moral responsibility of a preacher to convict (22:25) The value of biblical community (23:42) How do you get feedback from your congregation? (25:27) How do you see yourself as a young minister? (27:55) Two sides of the same coin of preaching (30:19) The difference between culture and context (32:03) The importance of contextualization (34:54) The beauty of expository preaching (43:07) How will "Chat GPT" affect preaching? (47:50) This episode is part of As in Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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Why Honoring the Gifts and Abilities of Women is Relevant to Dechurching 40:15

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In this episode of As In Heaven , Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson welcome Jen Wilkin to discuss the importance of seeing and honoring women's gifts and abilities in the church as it pertains to dechurching in America. When understanding God's design for the roles of women in the church, it is important that we seek to honor and value women in the midst of seeking biblical fidelity and clarity. Jen Wilkin shares several personal stories from both positive and negative experiences as well as stories of how The Village Church came to draft their shorter and longer position papers on the role of women in the church. Episode time stamps: Episode and guest introduction (0:00) Core for idols male pastors to work through in order to lead a healthy church (7:06) What does it look like for women to flourish in the church? (21:30) The process of writing The Village Church position papers (24:23) Why clarity is kind and why it matters (30:54) Why listening is so important in spiritual formation (33:59)…

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Why You Should Avoid Political Idols When Engaging the World Today 48:01

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In this episode of As in Heaven, hosts Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson welcome guest David Platt to discuss the role of political syncretism (taking political positions of neutrality) in dechurching in America. In their conversation, they unpack the ways political syncretism has diminished trust among many in their local church and the broader evangelical church. Episode time stamps: What does it mean to leave the church by politics? (0:55) Idolatry in the church (6:52) Praying for the president (16:50) Make sure the Word is clear and the message is proclaimed (22:26) What role does a pastor play when handing voter guides? (27:07) We live in a different kingdom (32:24) The power of love and compassion (35:43) Love God and others (41:45) Learn more about dechurching alongside Jim Davis and Michael Graham in this 5-session weekly online cohort through The Keller Center.…

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How to Love People Better Through Holistic Mental and Spiritual Care 58:42

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In this episode of As In Heaven , Jim Davis is joined by his wife, Angela Davis, a mental health counselor, and Benjamin Kandt to discuss the role mental health plays in dechurching, the relation between worship and mental health, and how mental health intersects with the church's ministry to the dechurched. They offer insight into the painful reality of loneliness and despair that marks many who have left the church. You'll learn how we can engage the hurts of this group of people and how we can act to hear and offer healing through love and the gospel.…

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The Next Generation: Forming College Students for Lifelong Faith 42:43

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In this episode of As In Heaven , Jim Davis and Skyler Flowers welcome Derek Rishmawy to discuss engaging upcoming generations, especially college students. They continue the conversation around the missed generational handoff and share practical steps that parents and church leaders can take to disciple and instill a love of the local church and an affection for the gospel among college students. Episode time stamps: Episode and guest introduction (0:00) College ministry and the pressure to succeed (8:06) Other pressures experienced in college (12:32) College and the unique opportunities it presents (19:08) College students are more open to discussing faith than people think (24:18) The defeatist mentality (31:19) College as a mission field (32:37) Having a kingdom mindset and working together (39:31) This episode is part of As In Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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The Next Generation: Forming Middle and High School Students for Lifelong Faith 52:48

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In this episode of As In Heaven , hosts Jim Davis and Skyler Flowers welcome Cameron Cole to discuss the importance of ministering to upcoming generations, primarily middle and high school students. They discuss the idea of "missed generational handoff," where the value of being churched experiences a dramatic decline in teens (ages 13-17) and young adults (ages 18-25.) Cole shares practical steps parents and church leaders can take toward disciplining and instilling a love of the local church and an affection for the gospel among this crucial age range. Episode time stamps: Episode and topic introduction (0:00) Preparing kids for the real world (6:44) The importance of asking questions (18:48) Rooted Ministry and gospel-centered discipleship (21:23) The generational handoff (26:16) The gospel catechism and theology. (29:12) Practical ways to make a difference (32:28) How can parents prepare their kids for a culture they don’t know? (39:27) Resources for parents and youth. (46:50) Recommended resource: Rooted Ministry Fuller Youth Institute The Reason for God by Timothy Keller This episode is part of As In Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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The Next Generation: Forming Kids for Lifelong Faith 1:08:33

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In this episode of As In Heaven , Jim Davis and Michael Graham are joined by David and Meg Robbins to explore the impact of gospel-centered parenting in the dechurching movement. Parents play a valuable role in reducing the probability of dechurching in their children's future, and this episode offers several practical tips to help parents foster healthier connections with their children and encourage a love for the church. Episode time stamps: Introduction David and Meg Robbins (0:00) How to ask the first question (8:12) Getting to the heart of our kids (13:57) Creating a community of believers for our kids (20:56) Navigating church casualties as a family (26:46) The role of technology (33:46) The importance of discipleship (47:25) How pastors can grow in this area (50:19) Advice to parents who are struggling (1:01:50) Recommended resources: Axis.org (Connecting Teens, Parents, and Jesus in a Disconnected World) Family Life Today Podcast This episode is part of As In Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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Why Relational Wisdom Is Essential to Engaging the World With the Gospel 52:03

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In this episode of As In Heaven, hosts Jim Davis and Michael Graham welcome Sam Chan to discuss the importance of relational wisdom when it comes to dechurching. They explore the idea that we can prevent people from leaving the church by improving our individual and institutional levels of relational wisdom. They also outline six key awarenesses that collectively yield relational wisdom: God-awareness Self-awareness Others-awareness Awareness of how others experience you Emotional awareness Cultural awareness Episode time stamps: Introduction to episode topic and guest (0:00) What God are people dechurching from? (5:14) A quiet, calm, and curious posture (9:31) Being aware of others: ask more questions (15:51) The importance of emotional awareness (19:52) Emotional awareness as a pastor and minister (25:27) Teaching and shepherding emotions of lament (31:09) We need the emotional vocabulary of God (34:13) Cultural awareness and evangelism in a skeptical world (39:58) Cultural differences in preaching (45:41) This episode is part of As In Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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How Pastoral Pitfalls and Failures Contribute to Dechurched Casualties 27:26

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In this episode of As in Heaven , Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson welcome back Justin Holcomb to discuss how pastoral pitfalls and failures can ultimately lead to "dechurched casualties." They'll delve deeper into the topics of malpractice, narcissism, and guarding our kids from sexual abuse. Episode time stamps: Episode and topic introduction (0:00) What is narcissism? (1:16) The dangers of narcissism in the church (3:52) Wisdom in leaving a dangerous environment (5:39) Characteristics of a narcissistic church leader (10:39) Why do people leave after a pastoral pitfall? (14:37) What to say to those who have left the church (18:02) What to look for in a healthy church (20:15) Resources for parents on guarding our kids from sexual abuse (24:01) Resources mentioned in this episode: God Made All of Me by Justin Holcomb and Lindsey Holcomb God Made Me in His Image by Justin Holcomb and Lindsey Holcomb God Made Babies by Justin Holcomb and Lindsey Holcomb Rid of My Disgrace: Hope and Healing for Victims of Sexual Assault by Justin Holcomb and Lindsey Holcomb Is It My Fault?: Hope and Healing for Those Suffering Domestic Violence by Justin Holcomb and Lindsey Holcomb This episode is part of As In Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon upon which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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How Church Abuse Contributes to Dechurched Casualties 49:52

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In this episode of As In Heaven , hosts Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson welcome Justin Holcomb to discuss the meaning of "dechurched casualties" and how abuse in a church environment contributes to people leaving the church. They discuss how to better engage those who have experienced abuse, especially spiritual and church abuse, and how the gospel is the ultimate source of healing. Episode time stamps: Episode and Justin Holcomb introduction (0:00) Definitions for spiritual and emotional abuse (4:41) Spiritual abuse as defined by Michael Kruger and Scott Clark (9:02) What to do if you suspect spiritual abuse (13:37) How to biblically handle abuse allegations against church leaders (17:18) Listen and believe: first steps to reporting abuse in the church (23:12) Respond well and initiate action (28:00) How the church should handle abuse in the church (33:43) How to minister to abuse survivors who have left the church (39:03) God's protection and questions to ask your new church (44:08) This episode is part of As in Heaven ’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in U.S. history. To learn more about this phenomenon on which the episodes of this season are based, preorder The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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What Is Casual Dechurching and Is There Hope? 47:31

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In this episode of As in Heaven , Jim Davis and Michael Graham welcome Patrick Miller to discuss the meaning of casual dechurching. They address the idea of casual dechurching and provide insights into why roughly three-quarters of those who have dechurched fit this category. You'll learn how we can better engage this group of people and why there is tremendous hope that many of them will return to church. Episode time stamps: Episode topic and guest introduction (0:00) Dechurching and a missional call to Gen Z (4:00) Who are the casually dechurched and why did they leave? (6:06) Church size and COVID-19 (10:22) Re-engaging and what has worked in Miller's context (17:06) The use of technology in re-engaging the dechurched (19:13) Six different profiles of churchgoers (24:54) Four categories of church evangelicals (26:45) Close friendship and discipleship (28:38) Trusting the Holy Spirit and being intentional (33:53) Practically engaging the dechurched through discipleship (41:50) This episode is part of As In Heaven’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in US history. To learn more about this phenomenon upon which the episodes of this season are based, pre-order The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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How Did We Arrive Here? A Philosophical and Historical Journey Toward Dechurching 48:45

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In this episode of As In Heaven , hosts Jim Davis and Michael Aitcheson welcome Collin Hansen to discuss the historical roots of dechurching. Hansen delves into events like the Enlightenment and the First Great Awakening, biblical criticism, the rise of the internet and technology, and more. You'll learn how these historical moments can inform how we navigate and understand dechurching in America today. Episode time stamps: Episode and topic intro (0:00) Historical factors behind dechurching (1:38) The Enlightenment (5:30) The First and Second Great Awakenings (9:18) The influence of the Civil War and the abolition of slavery (14:48) The "social gospel" and its criticism (19:04) Civil religion in American history (26:00) The rise of the religious right and the decline of Christianity (29:21) Issues and scandals of the religious right (34:51) How have the last 20 years changed the church? (40:19) How to develop a theological vision of the church (46:12) This episode is part of As In Heaven’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in US history. To learn more about this phenomenon upon which the episodes of this season are based, pre-order The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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Who Are the Dechurched in America and Why Did They Leave? 52:38

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In this episode of As In Heaven , host Jim Davis welcomes guests Ryan Burge and Michael Graham to discuss the dechurched in America—who are they and why did they leave? They discuss detailed insights about the 40 million adult Americans who have dechurched in the last 30 years and talk in-depth about the four different profiles of dechurched evangelicals. Episode time stamps: Episode and guest introduction (0:00) Defining "dechurching" and why it matters (2:36) The research and how to understand the data (7:36) Six main profiles of the dechurched in America (14:04) A deeper look at cultural Christians (17:36) Understanding mainstream evangelicals (22:15) Demographics of people leaving the church (28:03) Opportunities to better engage the dechurched (33:06) Defining and understanding the BIPOC group (38:18) Understanding dechurching among the Catholic group (42:22) The role of education in the dechurching movement (44:49) College students and religious literacy (47:01) Closing thoughts and looking forward (48:02) This episode is part of As In Heaven’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in US history. To learn more about this phenomenon upon which the episodes of this season are based, pre-order The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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Introducing As In Heaven Season 3 12:20

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In this episode of As In Heaven , Jim Davis, Mike Aitcheson, Michael Graham, and Skyler Flowers give a preview of the third season of the podcast, which focuses on dechurching in America. The hosts define key terms used throughout the season and discuss who the decurched are, how we can help, and where we're headed as the church in America. The bad news is bad—roughly 40 million people have left the church over 30 years. But the good news is good—there's something we can do as the body of Christ to bring people back and love them in a gospel-centered way. Episode time stamps: Introduction to the show and hosts (00:00) Overview of the season topic and episodes (3:40) Michael Graham's favorite episodes (5:16) Mike Aitcheson's favorite episodes (5:56) Skyler Flowers's favorite episodes (7:58) Jim's favorite episodes (9:38) Invitation to episode 1 (11:32) This episode is part of As In Heaven’s third season, devoted to The Great Dechurching—the largest and fastest religious shift in US history. To learn more about this phenomenon upon which the episodes of this season are based, pre-order The Great Dechurching by Michael Graham and Jim Davis.…

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A Biblical Theology of Race and Justice: Live at TGC21 48:03

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Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson talk live at TGC's 2021 national conference with Dr. Tim Keller and Dr. Irwyn Ince about a biblical theology of race and justice. The panel explores the similarities of the course 1940s Carl Henry charted between fundamentalism and liberalism, and how maintaining a prophetic witness will be important as we observe the phenomena of dechurching and deconversion. DISCUSSION QUESTIONS: How does Tim Keller define mishpat ? How does Irwyn Ince define shalom ? What inferences are drawn as to the relationship of mishpat to shalom ? As you observe our cultural moment, what things today bring you to a place of lament? As you observe our cultural moment, what things today bring you to a place of encouragement? What are some of the negative consequences of failing to pursue mishpat and shalom in this particular conversation? What does good leadership look like in such difficult and complex conversations?…

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What’s at Stake?: Gospel Opportunities and Implications 52:57

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In this episode of As In Heaven, hosts Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson welcome Soong Chan-Rah to discuss reclaiming the church from cultural captivity and the specific ways that Western attitudes of individualism have crept into our modern ministry philosophies. Rah shares insights regarding the ethics of the kingdom and paints a picture of hopes and dreams for the future. Rah focuses on the positive gospel opportunities in addressing race and justice with kingdom ethics. An introduction to Soong Chan-Rah (:58) Cultural shifts in objections to the gospel (2:54) The significance of minority leadership in this shift (9:43) The Next Evangelicalism: Freeing the Church From Western Cultural Captivity (13:27) “Captivity” in the conversation (17:11) Advice for church leadership in these conversations (21:14) “Aren’t we pas this now?” (28:10) How important it is for the church to get this cultural moment right (33:55) What happens when churches dismiss these cultural conversations (37:59) The church’s two minute drill (42:44) Hopeful realism (49:21) Explore more from TGC on the topic of race. DISCUSSION QUESTIONS: What are some biblical truths that the church stands by that you see the church as failing to live into? What does it mean that we should embrace “the full biblical narrative”? In the arc of that narrative, which parts of the narrative do you see yourself latching on to more easily? What are ways that the church has gone into “captivity” to western values? What are ways you have seen this in our bible reading? In our community life? In Christian engagements with social issues? What are ways that we can remember the sins of our past corporately in regard to how the church has engaged with minority racial groups? What gospel hope does Jesus offer in our remembering? What are your hopes for the future of the Western Church? How do you hope to see the church embrace values that are biblical, rather than cultural? What would that look like for your local church?…

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Leading Organizational Cultural Competency 42:57

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In this episode of As In Heaven, hosts Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson welcome Denine Blevins to the podcast to discuss the importance of cultural competency, both at the individual and the organizational level. Blevins also shares how cultural competency within Christian organizations must be different and distinct from the boiler plate secular diversity training in other workplaces. Blevins draws out some best practices in leading your organization into greater cultural competency so that you don’t undermine your organization’s core mission. An introduction to Denine Blevins (:58) Parakaleo (4:18) How Parakaleo came to be (8:45) Moments that shape the organizational competency of Parakeleo (11:36) The Office and cultural competency (20:13) How to know your organization is ready for cultural conversations (26:09) How to help your organization grow in cultural competency (29:04) Landmines for organizations looking to grow in cultural competency (37:03) God’s character revealed in the process (38:57) Explore more from TGC on the topic of race . DISCUSSION QUESTIONS: How can organizational systems actually include or exclude certain people or cultures? What are examples of organizational systems that could potentially work to include or exclude? Think of your church or work place. Who do your organizational systems currently primarily cater to? Who do they possibly exclude? How do secular answers to cultural difference and preference in organizational systems fail? How does the Christian response offer a better answer? Why is cultural competency important for organizational leadership? What steps can your organization take to grow in this?…

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The Importance of Empathy, Sympathy, and Lament 39:45

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In this episode of As In Heaven, hosts Jim Davis and Mike Aitcheson welcome Mark Vroegop to discuss the role of lament in the conversation on race and justice. Mark shares his own experience with exploring lament in the Bible and the Christian life, including empathy and sympathy and how they serve the conversation on race. Mark shares a helpful framework on how he thinks about racial reconciliation—love, listen, learn, lament, and leverage. Together, they address: An introduction to Mark Vroegop (1:16) Catalytic moments that drove Mark’s faith journey (4:18) Why write about lament (5:53) Leading others to lament as a pastor (8:54) Preparing your soul for lament (12:42) Defining empathy (14:39) Experiences that led to Mark’s book on lament (19:55) Lament in community (22:11) Lament in minority cultures (24:23) Lament and racial reconciliation (32:08) When lament leads to reconciliation (33:45) Explore more from TGC on the topic of race . DISCUSSION QUESTIONS: Have you ever found yourself in a place of lament in your life? If so, when and under what circumstances? How did God use that in your life? How do sympathy and empathy relate to lament? Why is lament important in how we think about the conversation about racial reconciliation? What does it look like to love, listen, and learn in the conversation about racial reconciliation? What does it look like to lament and leverage with an aim towards racial reconciliation?…

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OK, I See the Problem. How Do I Help? 1:15:17

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In this episode of As In Heaven, hosts Jim Davis and Michael Aitcheson welcome Irwyn Ince to discuss biblical strategies for affecting lasting change on both an individual and a church level when it comes to race and justice. Ince offers ways to strive toward gospel centered unity and diversity that he argues goes all the way back to the Trinity. Ince shares practical insights for churches that want to grow in their impact and reach their communities. The three address: An introduction to Irwyn Ince (1:45) Unity, diversity, reconciliation, and the Trinity (4:36) Unity is not conformity (7:33) How to help develop unity (10:48) A scriptural approach (14:56) Coaching those who want to help (19:08) How to talk about events capturing the nation’s attention (26:22) Navigating language (38:56) Taking substantive, long-lasting action (44:00) Engaging as a family (49:45) Engaging as a church (54:44) Roadblocks for the church (1:00:58) Engaging in the community (1:06:40) Encouragement for churches who want to impact their communities (1:11:16) Explore more from TGC on the topic of race. DISCUSSION QUESTIONS: How does the diverse-unity of the Trinity impact our view of the imago dei? How does this manifest itself in the pursuit of community? If there are concerns about the way the church is living out God’s vision for a diverse-unified community, how should a Christian respond? What qualifies should define this sort of engagement with church leadership? What is the Bible’s vision of justice? How does that play out in a social context? How then can we understand and use a term like social justice? Do you think your church manifests the diverse-unity that Dr. Ince talks about? What steps can you take in your church to pursue the Bible’s vision of diverse-unity? How does this look at a leadership level? A personal level?…

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Black Pastor and Professor Encounters with Law Enforcement 49:32

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This episode has been marked as explicit due to sensitive language related to racial slurs. Please listen with discretion. In this episode of As In Heaven, host Jim Davis revisits some of the conversations with previous guests of the podcast to explore their personal experiences with law enforcement. This is, of course, a touchy subject, and we address it here not in order to malign police officers, but because we believe this season would be incomplete without these very important stories. Not everyone is aware of some of the dignity robbing or sometimes traumatic encounters that black pastors and professors have had with law enforcement. Empathy and understanding has been the purpose of this show from the start, and that requires that we grasp the fears and wounds of minorities in this cultural moment. The reason for these stories (:13) Crawford Loritts (3:18) Isaac Adams (7:10) Darryl Williamson (11:19) Carl Ellis (26:00) Walter R. Strickand (33:39) Jerome Gay (36:28) Irwyn Ince (44:35) Explore more from TGC on the topic of race. DISCUSSION QUESTIONS: Had you ever heard any stories like these before? What did it feel like to hear so many pastors and professors share their painful, sad, and/or scary stories? Have you ever had an encounter like any of these? If not, what do you think it would feel like in that moment? If these things happened to you, what do you think it would feel like in the future being pulled over? If these things happened to you, what do you think it would feel like when a traumatic video is posted that is triggered by an encounter uncomfortably familiar with one(s) you might have had?…

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Parenting in This Cultural Moment 42:17

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Jim Davis and Michael Graham welcome Jasmine Holmes to talk through the complexities of parenting in this cultural moment. They discuss the fears and hopes of parents raising black children and what it looks like to help majority culture children process this period of American history. The group addresses: An introduction to Jasmine Holmes (1:28) The story behind Mother to Son (2:52) Current greatest fears in this cultural moment (5:23) Divisiveness and echo chambers and fear (7:16) The Black “birds and bees” talk (11:00) The “talk” with Black boys (15:29) Challenges raising Black children in this cultural climate (17:24) Coping with the struggles of raising Black children (26:05) Hope for parenting Black children in this cultural moment (28:19) The source of hope for parents (30:35) The importance of community (34:16) Learning the nuance and contours of parenting Black children (36:07) Helping children understand this cultural moment (38:58) Explore more from TGC on the topic of race . Books referenced in this episode: Mother to Son: Letters to a Black Boy on Identity and Hope by Jasmine Holmes DISCUSSION QUESTIONS: How was race spoken of in your house growing up? How were major moments of racial strife in the news discussed? What ways might that have been different for other cultures? What fears do you have for your children? How do those fears come from their culture or the color of their skin? How does this play out in conversations with your children? Why is it important for the church to recognize the differences in parenting through this cultural moment? Why is it important for the church to recognize the differences in parenting children of different cultural backgrounds? How can those in the majority culture process these race conversations with their children?…

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Some Unique Challenges Facing Black Women 56:00

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Jim Davis and Justin Holcomb welcome Trillia Newbell to talk about some of the unique relational dynamics facing black women. Newbell covers being racially profiled as well as many false stereotypes and the exhaustion that black women face as they navigate others’ expectations and perceptions. Newbell shares that the painful or awkward moments in the world also exist in the church, yet there is hope that springs out of lament, having faith in a good God. The three discuss: An introduction to Trillia Newbell (1:02) Coming to faith in a “holiday Christian” home (2:18) Common challenges Black women face in our culture (6:45) Picking her battles (9:53) Facing down unfair assumptions (13:19) False stereotypes of Black women (17:51) Stereotypes mirrored in the church (23:58) A Christian response to stereotypes (28:42) Parenting through racial stereotypes (33:15) Creative God, Colorful Us (36:35) Explore more from TGC on the topic of race . DISCUSSION QUESTIONS: Have you ever caught yourself thinking of any of the stereotypes of black women in your mind? What kind of emotions come to mind if other people judged a whole group of people by your individual speech, personality, or actions? Were you surprised that all of the same awkward or painful moments experienced outside the church were also experienced inside the church? Why or why not? Can you imagine the cumulative weight of the expectations, stereotypes, perceptions, and awkward or painful interactions over time? If yes, what does it feel like? Books referenced in this episode: God’s Very Good Idea by Trillia Newbell Creative God, Colorful Us by Trillia Newbell United: Captured By God’s Vision for Diversity by Trillia Newbell Sacred Endurance: Finding Grace and Strength for a Lasting Faith by Trillia Newbell…

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Navigating White Evangelical Spaces 1:15:06

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