The C4SO Podcast with Bishop Todd Hunter and Mickey Lowe celebrates the voices and values of The Diocese of Churches For the Sake of Others (C4SO), part of the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA).
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Sarah Shin and Shin Maeng on Advent
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This special holiday episode of the C4SO Podcast is hosted by the Rev. Vania Gomez of C4SO’s Racial Diversity and Justice Team. Vania interviews Sarah Shin and Shin Maeng about their new children’s book, The Deliverer Has Come: A Christmas Story, a racially inclusive Advent resource that situates the nativity story within the narrative arc of [...]…
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In our last episode of 2024, Bishop Todd and Mickey reflect on their two-year run as co-hosts of the C4SO Podcast. We are so grateful for Mickey's presence, especially for the warmth, energy, winsomeness, insight, perspective and just plain fun she brings to the podcast. In 2025, we will say farewell to Mickey as Bishop [...]…
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In the final episode of our Practical Ministry series, the Very Rev. Ger Jones of Vintage Church L.A. joins Bishop Todd and Mickey to discuss the challenges of evangelism in a post-Christendom world, where many people view Christianity as harmful and are hesitant to engage in spiritual conversations. Ger emphasizes the importance of showing Jesus' …
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Cher Hains & Addie Norman on Practical Ministry
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In the second installment of our "Practical Ministry" series, Bishop Todd welcomes two staff members from Trinity Atlanta, Cher Hains and Addie Norman, to discuss the challenges of recruiting and nurturing volunteers. The conversation emphasizes the importance of creating a culture of service that is inviting and supportive, rather than transaction…
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Our new series “Practical Ministry” explores how to handle the day-to-day challenges of local church ministry. First up is Kim Polk, Executive Director of Christ Church in Austin, Texas, discussing what it means to manage church staff effectively, fruitfully and ethically. Kim shares the significance of vision and values in leadership, effective co…
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Esau McCaulley on All Saints Naperville
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In this bonus episode of the C4SO Podcast, Bishop Todd asks longtime friend and Canon Theologian Esau McCaulley about his latest efforts in planting a multiethnic Anglican church in Naperville, IL, a suburb of Chicago. All Saints Naperville strives to be a biblically faithful, sacramental, multiethnic community serving Christ and his kingdom throug…
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David & Phaedra Taylor on Prayers for the Pilgrimage
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In this special bonus episode, Bishop Todd and Mickey interview David and Phaedra Taylor about their latest book Prayers for the Pilgrimage. The Taylors discuss the inspiration behind the book, their creative process, and the significance of collect prayers in their spiritual lives. The conversation also explores the integration of word and image i…
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Call-In Show on Navigating Conflict
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To wrap up our series on "Navigating Conflict," we decided to try something new: an episode modeled after an old-timey, call-in radio show. Bishop Todd and Mickey answer listener-submitted questions regarding conflict in a vestry, a personal relationship, a parish during a political cycle and more. The conversation references the great guests we ha…
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John Haralson & Drew Billups on Navigating Conflict
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Continuing our "Navigating Conflict" series, Bishop Todd and Mickey have a very practical conversation with the Rev. John Haralson and Drew Billups of Grace Seattle, who recently brought their church out of the PCA into C4SO. John and Drew emphasize the importance of creating a culture that can handle change and maintaining unity throughout the [..…
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Kathy Khang & Matt Mikalatos on Navigating Conflict
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Bishop Todd and Mickey welcome two award-winning authors—Kathy Khang and Matt Mikalatos—to the second episode in our "Navigating Conflict" series. In their recent book Loving Disagreement, Kathy and Matt bring unique insight into how the fruit of the Spirit informs our ability to engage in profound difference and conflict with love. As followers of…
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The C4SO Podcast is back with a brand-new series—"Navigating Conflict." Bishop Todd and Mickey welcome the Rev. Dr. Jin Cho, C4SO's Canon for Racial Diversity and Justice, to discuss the importance of having difficult but redemptive conversations about race within the Church, as well as the challenges that arise from avoiding these conversations. T…
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In the final episode of our Pentecost series, Bishop Todd welcomes Jon Odom, C4SO’s Regional Dean of the Midwest, to discuss the Person and work of the Holy Spirit. Jon shares how his early Pentecostal roots led him to Anglicanism; offers practical advice on staying open to the Spirit’s leading in our daily lives; and [...]…
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What happens when two Bishops meet in a podcast studio? A great conversation! Bishop Todd welcomes his good friend Bishop Steve Wood of the Anglican Diocese of the Carolinas for the third installment in our Pentecost series. Biblical and theological applications abound within this practical discussion of the Holy Spirit, specifically what it means …
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Bishop Todd and Mickey continue our Pentecost series by examining all things Holy Spirit with theologian Dr. Cherith Fee Nordling. Daughter of the notable pneumatological theologian Gordon Fee, Cherith reflects on her father's life and how he leaned into order, intelligibility and knowledge as a gift of love for the people of God. She traces [...]…
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Bishop Todd kicks off a new series on the upcoming season of Pentecost with C4SO Rector and former Vineyard pastor Kris McDaniel. Kris draws from his DMin research on the Spirit's animating power, along with his blend of charismatic roots and historic Anglican values, to explore how the work of the Spirit is increasingly vital [...]…
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Bishop Todd and Mickey wrap up our series on Ordinary Time with new friend and President of Renovaré Ted Harro. Ted challenges us toward a more expansive view of whole-life discipleship, both as individuals and as a community. The conversation also highlights the contributions of Dallas Willard and Richard Foster, offering resources for anyone draw…
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As we continue our series on the liturgical season of Ordinary Time, Bishop Todd and Mickey welcome author and priest Winn Collier. This conversation is rich with applicable spiritual takeaways as they discuss how the way of America is not necessarily the way of the Kingdom of God. Winn also shares wisdom and reflections from [...]…
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Amanda Goin-Burgess on Ordinary Time
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Our Ordinary Time series continues with longtime C4SO priest and friend Amanda Goin-Burgess. Bishop Todd and Mickey pick Amanda's brain on all things discipleship, sparking a thought-provoking dialogue surrounding societal elements that could lead to spiritual malformation. Amanda Goin-Burgess is an ordained priest within C4SO and the Pastor of Com…
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Jared Patrick Boyd on Ordinary Time
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The C4SO Podcast is back and better than ever! Bishop Todd and Mickey kick off the new year with a four-part series on Ordinary Time, beginning with friend of C4SO Jared Patrick Boyd as the first guest. Ordinary Time is a season for growth and maturation, and this conversation with Jared invites us into daily [...]…
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In this episode, co-hosts Mickey and Bishop Todd help us transition from Advent to Christmas with the Rev. Dr. Emily McGowin. Sometimes we struggle to see past Christmas' cultural trappings to its timeless beauty, but Emily takes us beyond consumption to explore the "great exchange" of the incarnation. This episode caps off another year of [...]…
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As part of our ongoing Advent series, Mickey and Bishop Todd invite C4SO priest Austin Becton to talk about how he practically applies the season to a local context. Austin opens up about his journey into a liturgical tradition, as well as the ways he and his parish are engaging the discipline of expectant waiting [...]…
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Continuing our series on Advent, Mickey and Bishop Todd sit down with longtime C4SO colleague and friend Marty Reardon. Marty speaks with wisdom and candor about his own faith journey, musical aspirations, and what it's like to lead a congregation in worship during this season. He asks us to consider, "What does it mean to [...]…
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Co-hosts Mickey and Bishop Todd welcome Kimberly Deckel to discuss how she has experienced the season of Advent both personally and pastorally. Kimberly offers elements of her story that were spiritually formative, and challenges us not to lose sight of grace as we seek to slow down, wait and fully experience this season of hope. [...]…
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Though today is All Hallows Eve, we already have our sights set on Advent. Co-hosts Mickey and Bishop Todd welcome Tish Harrison Warren to discuss her latest book, Advent: The Season of Hope (Fullness of Time series). For those new to the liturgical calendar, Tish provides both a theological framework and insights to deepen personal [...]…
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Karen Miller & Jay Fowler on Coaching for Christian Leaders
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In this episode, Bishop Todd introduces Mickey to two familiar faces within C4SO—Karen Miller and Jay Fowler. Both seasoned ministers and coaches, Karen and Jay explain the differences between coaching, spiritual direction and counseling, while encouraging C4SO leaders, no matter where they are on the journey, to find a form of consistent soul care…
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Brian Wallace on His First Days as Suffragan Bishop
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Newly-elected Suffragan Bishop Brian Wallace joins Mickey and Bishop Todd on the podcast to discuss how things are going in his new role thus far. Brian shares candidly about his experience and encourages C4SO leaders from his deep-seated knowledge of spiritual formation. Note: Bishops Brian and Todd mention "Pray As You Go," a prayer resource [...…
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Edgardo Colón-Emeric on Hispanic Theology
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Co-hosts Mickey and Bishop Todd welcome author and theologian Edgardo Colón-Emeric of Duke University to the podcast, in celebration of National Hispanic Heritage Month. Edgardo highlights several theological practices within Hispanic cultures—fiesta, family, hospitality and the "holiness of the ordinary"—that the global body of Christ can embrace …
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Vania Gomez on Identity and Calling
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As part of C4SO's celebration of National Hispanic Heritage month, co-hosts Bishop Todd and Mickey invite Vania Gomez to share her identity and calling—specifically how she stands in the middle of two cultures and seeks to "embrace the weirdness." Vania challenges us to celebrate cultural differences and create space for conversations on embracing …
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In this episode, Bishop Todd is joined by the Rev. Matt Dampier, Associate Rector at Christ Church in Austin, Texas, to talk about the work Matt leads on the streets surrounding the church. Matt discusses what led him to this ministry of actively loving his neighbors, what keeps him going, and some common misperceptions surrounding [...]…
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Rachel Wilhelm on Scriptural Songwriting
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On this episode, co-hosts Mickey Lowe and Bishop Todd invite singer-songwriter and worship leader Rachel Wilhelm into a conversation about artistic expression in the local church. Rachel offers deep insights on utilizing liturgy and scripture in worship songwriting and song selection. This one's for all the artists out there—musical or otherwise! R…
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On today's episode, Bishop Todd and AJ Sherrill discuss the ins and outs of the writing process, providing a conversation rich with advice and encouragement to anyone who dreams of being a writer. You'll also hear highlights from AJ's ministry journey, as well as the true history behind the "Mount" of Mount Pleasant, SC, when [...]…
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Ryder Mills on Child & Youth Protection
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After an end-of-summer hiatus, the C4SO Podcast is back! September is C4SO’s Child and Youth Protection Month, a time to help our churches safeguard children and youth from any form of misconduct. In this episode, host Mickey Lowe welcomes Ryder Mills of Christ Church Anglican in Overland Park, KS, to discuss best practices for nurturing [...]…
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On the latest episode of the C4SO Podcast, Mickey and Bishop Todd chat with the Rev. Amy Rozko about the ins and outs of C4SO's ordination process, specifically why she loves coming alongside ordinands on this Path of Discernment to Holy Orders. Amy also reveals a lesser-known fact about herself from her days at Fuller [...]…
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Michael Funderburk & Matt Brown on Church Planting
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Michael Funderburk of All Saints (Waco, TX) and Matt Brown of Christ the King (Brooklyn, NY) sit down with Mickey and Bishop Todd to wrap up our series focused on church planting. Michael and Matt share their unique journeys into their church planting contexts, while also providing wisdom on discerning God's call to this specialized [...]…
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Kara & Tanner Griffith and Mickey & Travis Lowe on Church Planting
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Continuing our series on church planting, Bishop Todd flies solo to interview his co-host Mickey, along with her husband Travis (Trinity - Tampa, FL) and Kara and Tanner Griffith (Christ Our Life - Raleigh, NC). You'll hear both couples describe the joys and pains of church planting, including what they've learned and how they've been [...]…
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Mickey and Bishop Todd begin a new series this week focused on church planting. First up is the man, the myth, the legend: the Rev. Dr. Bradley Swope, C4SO's Canon for Church Planting. C4SO began as a church planting movement and continues to prioritize church planting as the best method of making new outposts of [...]…
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The Rev. Dr. Scot McKnight, one of C4SO’s Canon Theologians, joins Mickey and Bishop Todd in very apocalyptic style to discuss his latest book Revelation for the Rest of Us. Scot explores how the often-misunderstood book of Revelation calls us to be faithful and hopeful witnesses to Jesus, stimulates our imagination to see the world through God's […
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Jonathan Abraham Kindberg on the Diaspora Network
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Mickey and Bishop Todd welcome the Rev. Jonathan Abraham Kindberg, C4SO’s Diaspora Mobilizer, to discuss his passion and calling to encourage and mobilize immigrant churches and leaders. Born in Peru and raised in Chile and Panama, Jonathan has extensive experience in cross-cultural ministry and has been instrumental in various initiatives of the A…
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Celebrating C4SO’s 10th Anniversary!
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This week, C4SO officially celebrates 10 years! Thanks be to God! Co-host Mickey Lowe discusses elements of the C4SO story with Bishop Todd Hunter, C4SO Ombudsman Kimberley Pfeiler and Jed Roseberry of Restoration Anglican in Dallas. The conversation will take you back to both the formative conversations and first meeting of the diocese before it […
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The Rev. Dr. W. David O. Taylor, C4SO's Scholar in Residence for Arts, Media, Culture, joins Mickey and Todd to discuss proper Tex-Mex ingredients, Bono, and David's latest book, A Body of Praise: Understanding the Role of Our Physical Bodies in Worship. By drawing on biblical wisdom, church history and theology—and taking advantage of the [...]…
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Pieter Valk on a Traditional Sexual Ethic
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Continuing a dialogue around human sexuality, Mickey and Bishop Todd welcome author/speaker and licensed counselor Pieter Valk to the podcast. Pieter discusses his commitment to a traditional sexual ethic that requires submitting his same-sex attraction to Christ. He explains his call to vocational singleness and shares his contagious passion for h…
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Wesley Hill on Human Sexuality and the Church
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Author, speaker, professor and priest Wesley Hill joins Mickey and Bishop Todd to discuss the Church’s relationship to human sexuality. Wesley shares his own powerful testimony of acknowledging his sexual orientation and God's call to celibacy, then seeking fellowship and belonging in a local church. Also, his dog Karl Bark (aptly named for theolog…
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Sabrina Chan on the Intersection of Race, Ethnicity, Culture and Faith
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Mickey and Bishop Todd welcome author and minister Sabrina S. Chan of InterVarsity Christian Fellowship to discuss everything from the significance of names to learning how to unicycle. Sabrina's history and experience inform a constructive and honest conversation on how race, ethnicity and culture consistently intersect with faith. Sabrina S. Chan…
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Mickey and Bishop Todd sit down with none other than British theologian and author Graham Tomlin to discuss international faux pas, the current relationship of the Anglican Communion to the Church of England, and the place of Christian cultural witness. Graham's work on the website Seen & Unseen: Perspectives on Just About Everything will inspire […
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In this episode, Bishop Todd Hunter and spiritual director / author Alice Fryling discuss the importance of clergy seeking spiritual direction. Alice's words are full of wisdom, inspiration and grace as she shares insights from her latest book, Aging Faithfully: The Holy Invitation of Growing Older. Alice offers practical tips from her own journey …
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Meet Brian Wallace, C4SO’s Suffragan Bishop-Elect
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In this special edition of the C4SO Podcast, Bishop Todd and Mickey sit down with Brian Wallace, C4SO's Suffragan Bishop-Elect, two weeks before his election at our Special Diocesan Convention (April 29). First, Bishop Todd reflects on the discernment process of finding a Suffragan Bishop to work alongside him in the life of the diocese, [...]…
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In the final episode in our Lenten series, the Rev. Ashley Mathews of Christ the King Fayetteville walks through each day of Holy Week and shares her plans to celebrate the mystery of Christ's passion, death and resurrection through an Anglican lens, yet contextualized to her congregation. Ashley's dialogue with Mickey and Bishop Todd will [...]…
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C4SO clergy and spiritual directors Markene Meyer of Trinity Lakeside and Peter White of The Sabbath Life discuss with Mickey and Bishop Todd how contemplative practices can aid the Lenten journey. Hear what each leader is doing in their respective community, as well as tips for adopting a quieted, still and slow posture into daily life. Rev. [...]…
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The Rev. Ger Jones joins the podcast to discuss the season of Lent from a low-church perspective. Listen as he shares with Mickey and Bishop Todd how Vintage Church LA is implementing the sacred postures of the season in intuitive, contextualized ways. This entertaining episode combines humor, insights and inspiration for healthy church ministry. G…
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Co-hosts Mickey Lowe and Bishop Todd continue our Lenten series by tapping the wisdom of author, church leader and ministry coach David Roseberry. On this episode, David shares his experience as the founding rector of Christ Church Plano and how he led the congregation through Lent. He also gives us a glimpse into the Lenten [...]…
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