Think, Pair, Swear, a podcast exploring the strange, sometimes ridiculous, sometimes dead on portrayals of the field of education in popular culture. Hosted by Justin Orscheln, former elementary Music teacher turned assistant-principal and Ronnie Lathrop, retired high school English teacher.
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: A college in California is banning students sleeping in their cars, but what about unhoused students just trying to get an education? With rent and tuition astronomical right now, young people are living out of their cars more, and an LA writer has a suggestion. Getting Schooled: What hap…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Teachers stealing ideas from other teachers isn’t a new concept, but it’s one often ignored and sometimes ridiculed. And Justin says that shouldn’t be the case. Teachers need to be thieves. Getting Schooled: What happens when a teacher wants to put her students first and ends up destroyin…
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Big Mouth (Season 2 Episode 8-10)
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Data shows that puberty is starting earlier for children. What does that mean in an era of “It’s the parent’s role to educate kids about sex?” Thoughts are shared. Getting Schooled: Ever wanted to host a lock in at school? Neither do we. Plus: Jay and JD Vance have something in common, Co…
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Dawson's Creek (Season 1--Episode 6 and 7)
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Are there alternatives to handing out detentions to students? One assistant middle school principal as 3 suggests and not a one that would work at the high school level. Getting Schooled: Oompa loompa doopity doo. We’ve got another puzzle for you. And it involves yet another student / tea…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: What’s the real life story behind Mean Girls and who is the real Regina George? Well turns out she’s now a suburban mom, but was she as horrible as the fiction version of her high school life? Getting Schooled: We have another principal doing things no real principal would do. And also: T…
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Summer Schooled: Sleepaway Camp
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Summer Schooled: Camp - Sleepaway Camp What could go wrong at a summer camp that refuses to close after multiple deaths of campers and counselors? A three foot boiling pot of salty corn, an aunt who talks like she’s in a film from the 1930s, curling irons, literal back stabbers, sit-ups into asses, Judy’s …
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Summer Schooled: Race For Your Life, Charlie Brown!
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Summer Schooled: Camp - Race for Your Life, Charlie Brown Was it a comment on internment camps or a glimpse into a post-apocalyptic world, campers? You decide. We follow the gang from Peanuts on a trauma filled adventure. What could happen in a world with no adult supervision? A menstrual flag, feral child…
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Summer Schooled: Wet Hot American Summer
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Summer Schooled: Camp - Wet Hot American Summer Hold onto your butts and don’t light those farts on fire, campers. We visit a hot mess parody of 80s summer camp sex comedies. What could happen on the last day of camp? Talking cans of vegetables, anal sex in a shed, horny gum chewing, children giving relati…
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Sumer Schooled: Little Darlings
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Summer Schooled: Camp - Little Darlings Summer break continues, campers. What happens when two girls place bets on who loses their virginity first? Gay coding, adolescent lung disease, a staff member with the hairiest back in recorded cinema history, a gas station condom machine exploding, “Miranda?” in th…
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Summer Schooled: Theater Camp
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Summer Camp: Theater Camp Welcome to summer break, campers. This summer we are covering five films set at summer camps. What happens when the matriarch of a camp for theater kids goes into a strobe light related coma at a production of Bye, Bye Birdie? One man/woman shows for bedtime stories, classes on pa…
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Extra Credit: School House Rock
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! There’s listener mail involving Pez dispensers, psychotic nuns, Justin supplying Emily Valentine with rolls of quarters, and teachers that don’t like authority figures. They put two School House Rock songs on trial and Judge Jeff Vincent (Ronnie’s other half) sentences one of them to die as it’s a battle f…
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Fast Times at Ridgemont High (With Special Guest: Matt Mitchell!)
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: A year after the release of this film, Ronald Reagan sounded the alarm on American education called “A Nation at Risk”: a series of lies and hyperbole that kicked off a narrative of teachers as villains and public education as a failure. Repercussion still felt today. Schooled: Former hig…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: Ronnie attempted to have Chat GPT humorously summarize a real lawsuit involving a teacher let go for testing positive for drugs after having an epileptic seizure. Does a school district have the right to drug test teachers? Looks like the Connecticut courts have an answer and the host have an ans…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: People of color are not going into education and many are beginning to notice. How do colleges and school districts attract diverse hires especially when DEI programs are being demonized by politicians on the right? Justin found an article with some solutions. Schooled: It’s a trip back in time t…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: A teacher sets up a fight club in their school, a student is injured and parents file a lawsuit. Yes. This really happened. Why? Just why? While student engagement was probably at an all time high, it isn’t advised. Schooled: This lesbian girl fight club saga has it all: Pre-DUI Marshawn Lynch, c…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: Is your principal a psychopath? A teacher in Australia worked with one and wrote a book about it. How can you tell if you too are working with one? This article gives us some hints, and it hits a little too close to home for Ronnie. Schooled: What if your teacher was a narcissistic sociopath? Thi…
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Return to Beverly Hills 90210 (S2 E15 & 16)
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: The rich kids at an elite New York school are hosting parties at exclusive venues and charging each other for the experience. They turned it into a niche money making opportunity and good for them. Would our hosts attend that kind of party back then? Schooled: Two episodes. The emergence of Emily…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: Guess what? Journalists frequently leave out the voice of educators when covering education, and frequently focus on firings and school board happenings. Shocker. One researcher has an idea to shift that but will journalists or school districts listen? Schooled: Another teacher tries to get with …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Justin has a history lesson on federally funded indigenous boarding schools, and the trauma they caused Native Americans in the United States. All in the name of assimilation and a cheap labor force. Horrifying. Getting schooled: Keeping with the light tone, our hosts critique this World …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: What were the different student groups you had when you were in school? Ronnie offers some data from a study on high school hierarchies and where students see themselves from 2023. Were Ronnie and Justin a part of the popular kids? The jocks? Avid listeners already know the answer to this…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anti Set: Between the serious news item vs something a bit lighter, choices were made and then regretted. Justin, in lieu of it being his birthday “season” would like to hear a favorite memory Ronnie has from celebrating his birthday. Stories were told. Nothing like a 30-something homosexual celebrating th…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! PodMatch PodMatch Automatically Matches Ideal Podcast Guests and Hosts For InterviewsAf Justin Orscheln and Ronnie Lathrop
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Should a teacher supplement their low salary by doing an OnlyFans? Well two English teachers from the same Missouri high school found out the answer to that in the last year. And the answer is sure. But can you use it for career ladder hours? Getting Schooled: Whoa. This was a heavy one t…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: White teachers who teach students of color are offered advice from an instructional coach at a Title 1 charter school. Basically don’t do what the film version of Luann does in Dangerous Minds. Getting Schooled: Luann Johnson is probably a lovely woman in real life but this movie version …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Ronnie channels his inner My Favorite Murder with the first recorded school shooting in 1853 a time when a mansion cost 80K. It was a bummer of a story that sounds as equally 2023 as it does from the 19th century. Prepare to be disappointed by the judicial system too. Getting Schooled: Ju…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Justin shares some information on students overspreading themselves with extracurricular activities. How much is too much? Ronnie complains a lot and regrets that his school didn’t have a beekeeping or calligraphy club. Does one need a sponsor for a beekeeping club? Getting Schooled: Max …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Were narcs a real thing or just an 80s urban legend from 21 Jump Street? We find out the secret history of narcs in the United States, and Ronnie thinks there were two at his high school. Cops in high schools weren’t always school resource officers. Getting Schooled: Ronnie gets a little …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: What are the ten types of problematic parents schools face? And who knew there were just ten and not two hundred? Stories are shared including a parent whose daughter battles raccoons in a crawlspace. How does one best handle these hot messes? Strategies are offered, ridiculed and refined…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: With all the sweeping social changes in Florida public schools, how’d they do across the board their first semester? They got their latest report card, and it looks fantastic! Just kidding. It’s a sh*t show. Getting Schooled: This movie had it all. Copy machine fights. 80s breasts. Opposi…
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Vice Principals (with Special Guest: Dr. Taylor Jahn!)
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: What happens when a public school principal removes a student from student government and sabotages her scholarship chances for twerking at a party telling her she’s not pleasing the Lord Jesus Christ? Turns out he apologizes and resigns for the rest of the school year. Getting schooled: …
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Matilda (with Special Guest: Dalton Pittenger!)
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: As if putting on a public school theater production wasn’t hard enough, now all over the United States parents and school boards are getting them censored or banned. Masks, queer kids, books and now the performing arts. Next up, football. Ha. Sure, Jan. Dalton shares a story about the blo…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Class is back in session! Anticipatory Set: Schools are still cutting arts programs. How is this still a thing? Athletics is still untouchable, but the school musical? Pottery? Dance? They’ve got to go. Unbelievable. Getting schooled: Glenn Holland is a horrible human. He won’t learn ASL to talk to his dea…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Season 1 Bonus Surprise! The Bonus is early! The podcast has listeners in Thailand, Vietnam, and Sedgwickville, Missouri. Hello, friends! There is some listener feedback as well as listener stories involving underwear: a revealing accident during a production of Grease and some drunk teachers laugh a littl…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Some more court cases made some headlines, and are going to affect education. Get ready for more lawsuits, y’all. Document everything! Getting Schooled: Matthew Broderick checks out the dumper on First Lady Mellie Grant. Reese Witherspoon pronounces the word “better” weird and doesn’t kno…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Someone threw chicken feed during a school board meeting. Really. That happened. Getting Schooled: It’s known as the “Donna Martin Graduates” episodes, but we know it as two steaming piles of garbage. What school district operates this way? Who okayed these board meetings? Why is Tori Spe…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! 1.08 Saved! Anticipatory Set: Social media is being regulated in some schools while others are actually suing social media itself. Go, girl! Get it! Social media has been the bane of administrators and teachers for years now. Getting Schooled: This film had everything: Mandy Moore without all the old perso…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Recent Supreme Court rulings have a direct impact on education, and we have some thoughts. It’s going to get messier up in this profession for sure. Getting Schooled: The first two episodes of this controversial Australian mockumentary shocked and reflected types of students and staff all…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Texas explored teacher merit pay but not just based on test scores. Was watching teachers jump through hoops worth it? Not so much. Getting Schooled: So all teachers teach because they have been unsuccessful in other ventures. That’s the tired theme these filmmakers explored. How many mov…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: A Christian School loses its funding for supporting its LGBTQIA+ students, and we lose our minds over it. Recent book bans also take a ride on this set. Getting Schooled: The first two episodes of season one introduce us to a very horny high school. Poor Mia is that one girl gay men teste…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Parents can get fined and go to jail for allowing children to drink at their homes in Massachusetts. The trope “At least they're drinking under my supervision” is ridiculed. Getting Schooled: What happens when a group of teachers conduct and experiment to stay just drunk enough during the…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Ungrading is apparently a thing. Its roots are problematic but has evolved into an intriguing concept. Should your school try it? Meh. Getting Schooled: John Stewart wasn’t that bad. What was bad: Frodo snorting caffeine, Piper Laurie’s wigs both pre- and post-alien infestation, and a sch…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Pennsylvania had a significant drop in teacher certificates being issued in ten years. To make up for the difference, many emergency certificates were issued to non-teachers. We had thoughts. Getting Schooled: the first two episodes of season one of Abbott Elementary left us wondering if …
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Anticipatory Set: Some schools are blocking Chat GPT while some are embracing it. Who cares really? We do that’s who, and Chat GPT created a one act play to prove it. Getting Schooled: Billy Madison takes us on a journey filled with frightening educators, bus drivers with issues, and Adam Sandler’s vocal r…
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Got a question or comment? Send us a text! Coming August 7th, 2023--the podcast, "Think Pair Swear." Come explore the ridiculous, off the wall, and sometimes spot on portrayals of the field of education in pop culture and media. Your hosts, Justin Orscheln and Ronnie Lathrop, give a sneak peek into episodes to come. Facebook: ThinkPairSwear Instagr…
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