Who says you can't change the world? Meet the people who are. Wayne Hsiung, law professor-turned-grassroots animal rights activist and multi-state felony defendant, uncovers the people behind the political, the unexplored personal stories of social change. Intimate interviews with journalists, musicians, filmmakers, community leaders, and others. Change isn't easy. But it must start somewhere. * Blog * Website
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“Coming Out” for Animals on Thanksgiving (with Mark Westcombe) (Ep.56)
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There’s a tendency for many to avoid conversation, much less confrontation, around the turkeys being served at our Thanksgiving dinner. Mark Westcombe, the director for Animal Think Tank, explains why we should do the opposite: tough personal conversations are crucial to building a mass movement! — Boycott & Anniversary Letter (Liberation Pledge le…
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The ABSURD Hypocrisy on Animal Rights (with David Ramms) (Ep.55)
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Elon Musk defended Peanut the squirrel - but also funds grotesque experiments on monkeys in labs. And Elon is like many people in his bizarre, inconsistent views on animal rights. What explains the hypocrisy? And what can be done to overcome it? — Follow David: https://youtube.com/@davidramms https://patreon.com/davidramms https://www.instagram.com…
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Finding Peace Amidst Atrocities (with Jamie Logan) (Ep.54)
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What happens when a joyous vegan enters the disturbing halls of an industrial factory farm? Jamie Logan is what I’d call a joyous vegan. Her activism is filled with warmth and humor, even as she speaks strongly for animal rights. I had her on the show because of a recent change in her activism: she has started going undercover into factory farms, w…
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The Real Reason Trump Won: Animal Rights? (with Jeremy Beckham) (Ep. 53)
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Pnut, a rescued squirrel seized and killed by the New York State Police, played a shocking last minute role in the election of Donald Trump. What does this mean for the future of animal rights? I discuss with Jeremy Beckham. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www…
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What This Election Means for Animals (with Natalie Fulton) (Ep. 52)
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Numerous pro-animal initiatives lost at the ballot box – in some cases, by huge margins. I break down what happened with Natalie Fulton at Pro-Animal Future, and how the animal rights movement will bounce back. — Follow Pro-Animal Future: https://ProAnimalFuture.org https://www.instagram.com/proanimalfuture/ Follow Natalie: www.youtube.com/@Natalie…
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Debating Vegan Gains on the Importance of Presidential Elections (with Richard Burgess) (Ep. 51)
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“Presidential elections don’t matter.” This is the controversial proposition I take up with Vegan Gains, days before the vote. And we reach some surprising points of agreement by the end of the conversation. — Follow Vegan Gains: https://www.patreon.com/vegangains https://www.instagram.com/vegangains.real/ https://www.youtube.com/@VeganGains https:…
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Traitor Sheep and the Corruption of American Politics (Ep. 50)
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A recent undercover investigation exposed the use of Judas Sheep – adult sheep trained to betray lambs and lead them to slaughter. But the concept of the Judas Sheep has implications far beyond the walls of a slaughterhouse. Indeed, there are Judas Sheep – politicians corruptly acting on behalf of the powerful – leading our entire nation to self-de…
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How Democracy Has Been Taken Over By “High Conflict Personalities” (with Natalie Fulton) (Ep. 49)
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The Democratic Party in Denver has accused animal rights of racism for advocating against the slaughter of animals. Workers of color, they say, will be negatively affected. Natalie Fulton and I discuss how to respond to these allegations - and what this incident shows us about the “high conflict personalities” who have taken over our political syst…
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Beagle Experiments Exposed In Court (Ep. 48)
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Five takeaways from the dramatic evidentiary hearing that happened this week in our attempt to appoint a special prosecutor to charge Ridglan Farms with animal cruelty. - The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! Chapter 1) 00:00-7:07 The First Takeaw…
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How To Stop Trump From Killing Dogs (Ep. 47)
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Trump and Harris both support the mass killing of dogs. But there’s an effective science-based strategy for getting them – and all the other political elites – to change — Sign up to join the Ridglan Case Support chat (& find link to sample social media posts for 10/23): https://www.simpleheart.org/ridglan — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe…
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He Wants To Argue About Gaza. Here’s Why We Shouldn’t. (with Richard Burgess, aka Vegan Gains) (Ep. 46)
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Has Vegan Gains gone intersectional? Richard and I discuss the merits of bringing multiple causes – from #MeToo to #FreePalestine – under the banner of a single social movement. — Follow Vegan Gains Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vegangains.real/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VeganGains Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VeganGainsOfficia…
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Why Is The Democratic Party Defending Animal Torture? (with Aidan Kankyoku) (Ep. 45)
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A ban on animal slaughter is on the ballot in Denver. And the fiercest opposition is coming from… the Democratic Party. — Learn more at https://proanimal.org/ about the Denver ballot initiatives! Denver: Vote Yes on 309: https://proanimal.org/campaigns/denver-slaughterhouse-ban/ Denver: Vote Yes on 308: https://proanimal.org/campaigns/denver-fur-ba…
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Why Animal Abuse is the Greatest Threat to Democracy
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Wandering cows, illegal raids, and threats to democracy that may imperil the future of our nation. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org! Thumbnail photo by Adair Luhr — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00 The greatest threat to democracy is on our dinner pla…
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The Legal System Is Biased Against Vegans. Here’s How We Won Anyways. (with Justin Marceau) (Ep. 43)
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Justin Marceau was lead counsel in the People v. Tracy Murphy. I speak to him about the serious misconduct we revealed in the case – & what it tells us about the broader problem of criminal justice. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Contac…
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She was Charged for Rescuing Two Stray Cows. This is How She Won. (Ep. 42)
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On July 16, 2022, Tracy Murphy saw two young stray cows wandering onto her property, adjacent to a busy road in upstate New York. She gave the cows food, water, and shelter and called the SPCA. What happened in the next few years is so bizarre and outrageous – from police raids to hidden cows sent to slaughter – that it's hard to believe. — Follow …
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He Tried To Put Me In Jail. I Invited Him On The Show.
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As the next big right to rescue trial looms, we're republishing a blast from the past: a debate I had with a pig farmer just months after a mass open rescue at Sunrise Farms. — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-03:…
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This Closing Argument Saved Me From Prison. What I Learned Could Save You, Too. (Ep. 40)
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In one week, we face the next huge animal rights trial. Here’s what we can learn from my closing argument in one of the last ones. #SmithfieldFoods #CompassionIsNotACrime — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00 Intro…
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Race, Gender, and Infighting in the Vegan Movement (with David Ramms) (Ep.39)
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David Ramms thinks veganism has an infighting problem. Is he right? And if so, what can be done? — Follow David: YouTube: www.youtube.com/@davidramms Website: https://davidramms.com/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/davidramms/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/itsdavidramms XTwitter: https://twitter.com/itsdavidramms LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/…
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This Restaurant Banned Vegans. Then Sued Tash for Protesting. (with Tash Peterson) (Ep.38)
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Tash Peterson was recently convicted and forbidden from leaving Western Australia after protesting a restaurant that banned vegans. She was sued for accusing a chef who posed with dead animals of “animal abuse.” And, while pretending to be a farmer, she listened as an angry stranger threatened to kill Tash Peterson – without realizing that the “far…
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They Called Her a Bioterrorist. She Won Them Over, Anyways. (with Leah Garcés) (Ep.37)
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Leah Garcés has convinced numerous factory farms to give up the business of killing animals and transition to plant-based agriculture. And shares the secrets to this remarkable work in this conversation. - More on Leah’s books: “Transfarmation: The Movement to Free Us from Factory Farming”(new release on 9/17/2024): https://www.penguinrandomhouse.c…
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Are People Really “Eating The Pets”? (Ep. 36)
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Trump is right. They’re eating the pets!-Follow Wayne:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WayneHsiung_ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/waynehhsiung/ -The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://simpleheart.org!-Chapters:Chapter 1) 00:00 Donald Trump’s wild allegation…
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Why Animal Rights is Key to the Presidential Debate (with Jeremy Loeb) (Ep.35)
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The path to victory in the Presidential debate is… animal rights? I break down the opportunities and threats for the candidates – and animal advocates – with former NPR journalist Jeremy Loeb. - Follow Jeremy: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@loebjeremy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/loebjeremy/ XTwitter: https://x.com/LvLouMeng TikTok: http…
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Why Politicians Cover Up Animal Cruelty (Ep. 34)
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There was a bloody ritual unfolding just a few minutes from the DNC… — The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org! — Chapters: Chapter 1) 00:00-9:00 What was happening while the Democratic National Convention was happening, animal rights issues is bipar…
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The Perils of Victimization Politics (with Jeremy Loeb) (Ep.33)
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Something odd happened in politics – and, increasingly, communities – about 10 years ago: more and more people began claiming “victim” status. Jeremy Loeb and I break down the phenomenon. - Follow Jeremy: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@loebjeremy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/loebjeremy/ XTwitter: https://x.com/LvLouMeng TikTok: https://w…
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He Rescued a Hen Dying in a Manure Pit. They Jailed Him. (with Adam Durand) (Ep. 32)
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Adam Durand was the first activist in US history to be jailed for an open rescue. And his story – including one of the wildest criminal trials in animal rights history – is equal parts inspiring and haunting. — Documentary of Wegmans Egg Farm Investigation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u99T_xb9NTs Article: “Capturing Caged Hens on Video Brings a…
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The Shocking Truth About Kamala Harris and Donald Trump (with Jeremy Beckham) (Ep. 31)
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From deportations to oil profits, the numbers tell a different story than most would expect. What implications does that have for those of us who care about protecting life on earth? — Follow Jeremy & UARC: XTwitter: https://twitter.com/JeremyBeckham IG: https://www.instagram.com/j.s.beckham/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/slcvegan LinkedIn: https://…
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Why Wild Animal Suffering Matters (with Humane Hancock) (Ep. 30)
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Could the greatest moral crisis on Earth today be… the suffering of insects? Jack, aka Humane Hancock, thinks the suffering of wild animals, including insects, matters. And if he’s right, there are remarkable implications. — Follow Jack: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HumaneHancock Website: patreon.com/Humanehancock Instagram: https://www.instag…
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The Best Messaging for Animal Rights (with Tom Harris) (Ep. 29)
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Tom Harris was sent to prison for running a lawful campaign against an animal testing company in the United Kingdom. What can we learn from his experience about why so many, in the government and otherwise, hate activists for animal rights? - More information: Website: https://shacjustice.com/ Tom’s book: “Your Neighbour Kills Puppies: Inside the A…
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Can We Defend a System Built on Lies? (with Jeremy Loeb) (Ep.28)
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Jeremy Loeb and I discuss the ethics of lying. From factory farms that create false ads, to politicians who deceive the public, manipulation is everywhere. Can that ever be justified? - Follow Jeremy: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@loebjeremy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/loebjeremy/ XTwitter: https://x.com/LvLouMeng TikTok: https://www.t…
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How He Cured the Worst Suffering He Ever Experienced (with James Aspey) (Ep.27)
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James Aspey has been experiencing unbearable pain, related to serious injuries he’s suffered for over a decade. But he found a miraculous cure: getting off social media. This conversation went in an unexpected direction. I wanted to have James on to discuss double standards in politics. Why are we so open to politicians ignoring the moral calamity …
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The (Failed) Effort to Crush the Animal Rights Movement (with Ben Newman) (Ep. 26)
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Ben Newman is the first activist in Animal Rising to serve jail time for his nonviolent activism for animals. And he has tips for all of us on how to stay calm and positive, even in hard times . - Follow Animal Rising- Website: https://www.animalrising.org/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/animal.rising/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Animal.Rising…
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The Case Against Consumer Change (with Natalie Fulton) (Ep. 25)
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Should vegans stop calling ourselves vegan? Natalie Fulton makes the case in this conversation. Natalie is a YouTuber and the social media lead for Pro-Animal Future, which focuses on using systemic change to end the exploitation of animals. - Follow Pro-Animal Future: Website: https://ProAnimalFuture.org Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/proani…
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He’s Trying To Ban Factory Farms. He Might Succeed. (with Curtis Vollmar) (Ep. 24)
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A historic ban on factory farms is on the ballot in the heart of Big Ag this November – and early polling suggests it has a chance at victory. I speak to Curtis Vollmar, the President of Compassionate Bay, who breaks down the wild developments in Sonoma County. - Follow Curtis Vollmar:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtis_v0llmar/ Facebook: h…
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How to be Shy AND Bold (with Jack Higgs) (Episode 23)
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Imagine being shy and putting yourself in positions where people will scream at you, attack you, and literally bring out a whip to lash you and your friends. That’s Jack Higgs. Jack is an influencer, animal rights activist, and long-time companion to Tash Peterson. And he’s got fascinating lessons in courage, disruption, and how to create change. -…
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The Source of Moral Truth (with Peter Singer) (Episode 22)
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Episode 22: Reason is the source of moral truth. There are few people on this planet who have done more to defend that proposition than Peter Singer. And I was honored to sit down with Peter, nearly 50 years after the publication of Animal Liberation, to see what he’s learned about the journey to a reason-based system of ethics. Substack: https://b…
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Vegan Gains Might Kill Me. I Like Him. (with Vegan Gains) (Episode 21)
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Episode 21: Can violence ever be justified? In the wake of the Trump assassination attempt, I had an intense discussion with Richard Burgess, aka Vegan Gains. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vegangains.real/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@VeganGains Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/VeganGainsOfficialAllan Lichtman: https://en.wikipedia.or…
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The Mass Criminality of “Humane” Animal Farms - Attorney Explains (Episode 20)
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Episode 20: The meat industry isn’t just lying. It’s engaged in a crime spree of epic proportions. - Animal Rising's RSPCA Investigation video: https://youtu.be/OfM5VRMl7wk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Animal.Rising IG: https://www.instagram.com/animal.rising/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/AnimalRising XTwitter: https://twitter.com/AnimalRising…
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Why Thomas Crooks Tried to Kill Trump
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Everyone is wrong about why Thomas Crooks tried to kill Donald Trump. People on the right blame overheated rhetoric on the left. People on the left condemn the right’s historical support for political violence. But this all misses the point. There are three long-term trends in human society that made sometime like Thomas Crooks’ actions virtually i…
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How to Fight the Humane Meat Lie (with Rose Patterson)
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Episode 18: One of the most reputable animal welfare organizations in the world, the RSPCA, spent millions of dollars certifying the meat that consumers buy in the United Kingdom. They put their stamp of approval on the products – initially, “Freedom Food” then “RSPCA Assured” – and even big companies like McDonald’s joined the program. Then Rose P…
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Rescuing Julie (with Jeremy Loeb)
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For decades, the vivisection industry and government covered up the torture of puppies like Julie, a blind beagle at Ridglan Farms. For one year, she lived alone in a 2’ x 4’ metal cage, where the wire flooring dug into her paws. Then, on April 17, 2017, she was saved. I tell the story of Julie’s rescue with Jeremy this week. And in the next few we…
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Can We Rescue 60,000 Tortured Dogs?
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For decades, the government has been covering up the torture of tens of thousands of dogs – and even trying to imprison those who blow the whistle on the abuse. On July 10, we will be in court to turn the tables on the industry and present evidence to support our petition to appoint a “special prosecutor” against Ridglan Farms. This is one of the w…
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How Controversy Drives Change (with Tash Peterson)
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Most of us avoid being controversial. Tash Peterson does the opposite - and she’s become one of the most influential animal advocates in the world as a result. From walking into a Louis Vuitton with her own menstrual blood smeared over her naked body to breaking into factory farms, Tash does everything she can to invite, not avoid, controversy. And…
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How PETA Saved 4000 Dogs (with Alka Chandna)
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On June 3, 2024, one of the largest dog research and breeding facilities, Envigo, was fined a record $22 million for violating federal animal welfare laws. As a result of the same proceeding, 4000 dogs were saved from life in a cage – or, worse, death at the hands of a vivisector in a lab. It’s been one of the biggest victories in animal rights his…
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How the Law Covers-Up Animal Cruelty (with Mariann Sullivan)
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Most people believe our legal system protects animals from cruelty. And most people, in holding this belief, are wrong. I speak to the renowned animal law scholar and attorney Mariann Sullivan on how the law has been used to cover up cruelty through a series of exemptions to animal cruelty law for “customary practices” in the industry. Essentially,…
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Is Animal Rights Being Shadow Banned? (with Vegan Gaze)
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Animal rights content has taken a big hit on social media. Could the food industry influence be to blame? Check out my conversation with activist, cruelty investigator, and YouTube influencer Vegan Gaze! Follow Elle on social media: YouTube (main channel): https://www.youtube.com/@vegangaze Patreon: patreon.com/theflemface Links: https://direct.me/…
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To Hell and Back Again (with David Ramms)
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Walking into a factory farm is like going through a dimensional portal into hell. But this conversation will show you something surprising about going to hell: it’s well worth the trip. David Ramms is one of the funniest, most intelligent activists out there. But he’s also one of the bravest. He has been inside factory farms across Europe, and what…
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Does the Dog Die? (with Jeremy Beckham)
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Jeremy Beckham is the reason Julie the beagle is alive.Back in 2015, Jeremy told me about a secretive facility called Ridglan Farms that was producing thousands of beagles for experiments every year. Documents uncovered by Jeremy and other activists showed evidence of piles of burning animals, hundreds of dogs being subjected to painful procedures …
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Vegans Loving (Hating?) Vegans (with James Aspey)
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In January 2014, James Aspey took a year-long vow of silence. For 365 days, James did not use his voice, in an effort to raise awareness to the suffering of animals. And when he finally spoke, his words had great power. He reached millions of people in his first interview for Australian television, then gave hundreds of talks across the globe (virt…
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Am I a Scumbag? (with Vegan Gains)
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Vegan Gains thinks I’m a scumbag. And I’m grateful. Richard Burgess, or Vegan Gains, is among the most important vegan influencers in history. His brand of fierce advocacy has generated a big following, with over 300k subscribers on YouTube. But while there is much to appreciate about Richard – he is wicked smart and has provocative, evidence-based…
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Mobilizing a Movement (with Dan Kidby)
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We live in an era of social movements. From #BlackLivesMatter to #FreePalestine, massive mobilizations of ordinary people have seized the national agenda – and reshaped policy of nations across the globe. How does it all happen? And can we do the same for animal rights? Dan Kidby is the co-founder of the UK-based Animal Rising, formerly Animal Rebe…
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