Talking about money is hard. All over the world, people are taught never to talk about money, politics, sex or religion in polite company. On 50 Fires: A Podcast About Money and Meaning from Executive Producers Chip and Joanna Gaines, host and financial conversationalist Carl Richards will remove money from that list by having frank, funny, and often difficult conversations about money - the kind we were all told not to have! - with guests from all walks of life. In each episode, Carl will i ...
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Before taking a pause for the Summer, Carl revisits moments with recent guests Austin Kleon, Debbie Millman, Tom Fishburne, and Gretchen Rubin to pulling together common threads about the hidden stories we tell ourselves about money. Ask yourself the following questions while listening: Where does your money come from and what does it cost you? Wha…
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The Cost Of Making Things With Austin Kleon
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57:53Austin Kleon has built a life around making art—and making choices. In this candid conversation, the bestselling author of Steal Like an Artist opens up about the cost of creativity, the pressure of success, and the freedom that comes from knowing what’s enough. From turning down life-changing sums of money to driving an old Honda with pride, Austi…
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Meaningful Work Done On Purpose With Tom Fishburne
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1:06:35Cartoonist and former brand manager Tom Fishburne—best known as the creator of Marketoonist—joins Carl for a conversation that flips the script on what it means to take risks. From leaving a stable job with a Harvard MBA to becoming a full-time cartoonist, Tom shares what looked like “career suicide” from the outside became his most stable and fulf…
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What Money Can’t Fix with Debbie Milman
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1:04:12Debbie Millman is a celebrated designer, writer, educator, and host of the long-running podcast Design Matters. In this conversation, Debbie opens up about a subject she rarely discusses publicly: her lifelong relationship with money. Together with Carl, she traces the roots of scarcity, shame, and control that shaped her childhood and career decis…
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Spending Your Money Now with Oliver Burkeman
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1:04:57"You Actually Miss Your Life While You're Trying to Protect It". That’s the provocative idea at the heart of this episode with bestselling author Oliver Burkeman (Four Thousand Weeks). Oliver reflects on how class, money, and time shape our identity and our illusions of control. From childhood popsicle enterprises to awkward dinner bills and the ha…
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Why We Spend the Way We Do with Gretchen Rubin
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1:03:03Is money ever just about money? Gretchen Rubin, bestselling author and happiness expert, joins Carl to explore the subtle ways our childhood, identity, and and the surprising power of choosing what not to spend money on. From her awe at the simple amount of $100 as a child to the moment she chose not to renew her New York Bar license, Gretchen shar…
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How To Be a Rich Loser with Comedian Paul Ollinger
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1:03:44What happens when you’ve checked every financial box—and still feel lost? Carl sits down with comedian, former Facebook exec, and Reasonably Happy author and podcast host Paul Ollinger to explore the emotional weight of money and identity. Paul shares what it felt like to walk away from Silicon Valley at 42, why he once considered himself a "rich l…
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More Money, More Possibilities with Rabbi Shira Stutman
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1:02:06Identity, belonging, and the real meaning of money and Judaism is covered in this episode with Rabbi Shira Stutman. Rabbi Shira and Carl navigate questions of tradition and community in today’s polarized world, the need to hold space for complexity—within ourselves and our institutions—and how embracing discomfort can spark growth, understanding, a…
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Is money dangerous? Could be. Is money powerful? Definitely. Can it corrupt? Of course. Can it liberate? Absolutely. Money is a mirror.
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9:10Is money dangerous? Could be. Is money powerful? Definitely. Can it corrupt? Of course. Can it liberate? Absolutely. Money is a mirror. —----------------------------- Follow 50 Fires on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/50firespod/ Please direct business inquires to: [email protected] Cover Art: Josh Passler - TheFinArtist.com Music Cre…
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Rewriting Your Money Story with Breanna Rae Blaney
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1:03:49Breanna Rae Blainey is a financial wellness leader, entrepreneur, and co-founder of the Anya Institute for Human Revolution. She and Car unpack themes like control and the emotional energy we attach to our finances, offering practical tools like the "Triple A" framework—awareness, alignment, and action—to help navigate our relationship with money i…
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Choosing What Matters Most with Neha Ruch
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1:10:43What if the boldest career move you ever made was stepping away? Neha Ruch, founder of Mother Untitled and author of The Power of Pause, joins Carl to unpack the layered experience of pausing a high-powered career to prioritize family — and rediscover a deeper sense of self. Neha shares her journey as the daughter of Indian immigrants, growing up a…
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The Zen Of Enough with Henry Shukman
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1:04:08Poet, Zen teacher, and memoirist Henry Shukman joins Carl for a conversation that explores what it truly means to live freely. Through stories from Henry’s life—including his youthful encounters with a wandering tramp named “Speedy” and the spiritual revelations that shaped his memoir One Blade of Grass—they dive into profound ideas of freedom, eno…
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The Sound, Smell, and Meaning of Money with Susan Werner
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57:38Singer-Songwriter Susan Werner joins Carl for a deeply personal conversation that weaves together her upbringing on a midwest farm, her financial philosophy, and how it intersects with her pursuit of creative integrity. From the sound of coins jingling in her father’s pocket as a young child to the smell of manure—“the smell of money” on an Iowa fa…
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Tarriffs and Economic Uncertainty (What Should We Do?)
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11:42What should we do to protect our finances and investments right now? First off, when markets get scary? We should avoid chasing predictions. It turns out that creating financial resilience is not about making perfect predictions about what’s coming next. It’s about building a life that can adapt to whatever arrives. This approach works, regardless …
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What To Do When The Markets Are Scary
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8:25Carl tackles the fear and uncertainty that often accompanies volatile markets (are you feeling a little bit of that right about now?), with a reassuring reminder that market fluctuations are normal. Carl emphasizes the importance of staying focused on long-term goals rather than reacting emotionally to short-term market movements. —----------------…
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Facing a Tough Financial Decision? Try The Overnight Test
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8:38Making tough financial decisions can be overwhelming, especially when emotions and biases come into play. In this mini episode of 50 Fires, Carl shares a powerful mental tool he calls The Overnight Test. This simple yet effective exercise helps navigate the inertia of holding onto investments, properties, or even routines that no longer serve us. T…
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A Life Well Lived with Peter Singer
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29:53Peter Singer may be, as The New Yorker calls him, the planet’s “most influential living philosopher." He has written the classic text Practical Ethics, The Expanding Circle, The Life You Can Save (which gave rise to the organization of the same name) and Pushing Time Away (an account of the life and fate of his grandfather, a victim of the Holocaus…
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Finding Your Own Definition of Wealth with Katie Gatti Tassin
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1:07:21Katie Gatti Tassin, the creator of the Money with Katie Podcast, joins Carl to explore the personal and philosophical sides of money. Katie shares her journey from launching a personal finance blog to selling it to Morning Brew, and how that experience reshaped her views on wealth, work, and independence. Together, they dive into Katie’s early memo…
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Common Sense Is Controversial with Kevin Dahlstrom
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1:09:39At 54 years old, Kevin Dahlstrom has discovered the secret to ‘enough.’ A four-time CMO, founder, rock climber, father, and husband, Kevin joins Carl to explore themes of career control and the true importance of aligning one’s life with personal values. They discuss strategies for gaining control over one’s career, the significance of unstructured…
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Taking Big Leaps and Meaningful Rewards From Author Pam Houston
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58:40Celebrated author Pam Houston describes her extraordinary journey with Carl in this inspiring episode —from a childhood shaped by financial anxiety to finding solace and purpose in the natural world. Pam shares the remarkable story of how she bought her beloved ranch in Wyoming with just 4.7% down and a signed copy of her first book, the life lesso…
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Getting More Out Less with Joshua Becker
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49:30Joshua Becker is best known as a minimalist. He’s the founder of Becoming Minimalist and the bestselling author of books like The Minimalist Home and The More Of Less. In this episode, Carl and Joshua discuss the paradoxes of wealth and happiness, the impact of cultural expectations on spending, and the importance of aligning financial decisions wi…
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Pursuing Passion and Making Money with ‘Real Fun, Wow!’ Artist Daren Thomas Magee
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1:10:41What happens when passion meets financial reality? In this episode of 50 Fires, Carl sits down with artist Daren Thomas Magee, the creative mind behind Real Fun, Wow. Daren opens up about the challenges of making a living as an artist, the unfiltered realities of financial ups and downs, and his unique approach to staying grounded despite financial…
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“Do You and Money Have a Positive Relationship?” with Dr. Gena Gorlin
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1:07:01Have you ever caught yourself making a decision about money—big or small—and thought, Wait. Whose voice is that in my head? Is this really me? Or is it the voice of my parents, a professor, society, or maybe even fear? Dr. Gena Gorlin understands this deeply and has spent significant time unraveling this pattern of thinking. As a clinical psycholog…
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“Buying Things Is Usually Stupid” with Joel Stein
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1:11:23What happens when you spend $200,000 a year but only make $30,000? In this lively episode, Carl dives into the numbers with Joel Stein—one of America’s wittiest cultural commentators—to explore his unique experiences with money. From renting Lamborghinis to hosting billionaires at Burning Man, Joel’s journalism career has granted him access to expe…
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Happy Holidays From 50 Fires + Season 3 Coming Soon
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Granting Yourself Permission To Be Radical About Money with Tony Riddle
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1:07:56Tony Riddle is a natural lifestyle coach, father, husband, the best-selling author of Be More Human and a record-breaking barefoot endurance athlete. In this conversation, Tony and Carl explore the themes of failure, intentional living, and the importance of community, emphasizing the alignment of capital with happiness. The discussion also touches…
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The Nature of Generosity with Dallas Hartwig
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58:23Dallas Hartwig is a co-founder of the Whole30 program and co-author of two New York Times bestselling books — It Starts With Food and The Whole30. He’s also co-host of The Living Experiment podcast, and on this episode of 50 Fires, he shares his fears about financial stability while prioritizing quality of life and time with his children. He and Ca…
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Money, Shame, and Fury with Author and Adventurer Katie Arnold
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56:30Katie Arnold is an author, journalist, competitive ultra runner and host of running and writing retreats. Her new book, Brief Flashings in the Phenomenal World, is out now. In this episode of 50 Fires, Katie and Carl explore themes of self-discovery, the meaning of money, and the practices that help her maintain authenticity in a world filled with …
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3 Questions to Spark Meaningful Money Conversations This Thanksgiving
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10:49Email List: Sign up at https://www.50fires.com/ for our monthly email with resources for financial advisors! Follow 50 Fires on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/50firespod/ Please direct business inquires to: [email protected] Cover Art: Josh Passler - TheFinArtist.com Music Credits: Alexandra Woodward / Rabbit Reggae / courtesy of www…
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Krista Tippett Explores The Relationship Between Money and Tension
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1:04:31Krista Tippett is an icon of reflection and moral imagination. As the creator and host of the radio program On Being, Krista’s voice has been a steadying for millions of listeners over the years, guiding conversations about life’s biggest questions, and inviting us to think more deeply. Krista and Carl venture into the complex and often messy relat…
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Kara Swisher Is Unemotional About Money
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47:56Kara Swisher joins Carl for a wide-ranging conversation about money and meaning - from her early experiences with money to observing the habits of influential billionaires up close. If you’re not already familiar with Kara, her reputation precedes her: she’s direct, honest, and unapologetic about asking tough questions, especially to the wealthiest…
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What Can We Do When Things Feel Out of Control?
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How To Avoid Burnout with Former Tech Entrepreneur and Founder of Nervous System Mastery Jonny Miller
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58:44What job have you given money, and is it realistic? Jonny Miller and Carl explore this question in a discussion that digs deeper into the meanings of wealth, ambition, and fulfillment. Jonny is the founder of the Nervous System Mastery program, providing high-performers - from the CEO of a rocket ship company to startup founders recovering from bur…
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Jerry Colonna’s Journey Through The Emotional Landscape of Money
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52:33Jerry Colonna is a certified professional coach dedicated to the notion that better humans make better leaders. Drawing on his wide variety of experiences as a former venture capitalist and practicing Buddhist, Jerry and Carl explore the intricate relationship between money, emotions, and family ancestry. He shares personal anecdotes about his earl…
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Solving The Problem of Comparative Spending with David C. Baker
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52:39David C. Baker is the author of multiple books, including “The Business of Expertise: How Entrepreneurial Experts Convert Insight To Impact + Wealth”. He’s a helicopter and airplane pilot, an avid photographer, and taught high performance motorcycle riding/racing. Based in Nashville, he has visited and worked all over the world. On this episode of …
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Sports Journalist Sarah Spain on Resisting Professional Comparison, Gender Parity in Sports, and Being Unapologetic About Living Life on Your Own Terms
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51:12Sarah Spain is a veteran sports reporter who currently hosts “Good Game with Sarah Spain”, a daily podcast covering the biggest stories in women’s sports. Sarah and Carl discuss the challenges and realities of working in the sports industry, including the financial struggles and gender inequity that comes with it. Follow and Listen to "Good Game wi…
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Teenage Investor Chris Truong’s Best Tip? Investing Should Be Boring
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35:03Teenage investor Chris Truong joins Carl to discuss why investing your money should be boring. At just 16 years old, Chris started a long-term diversified investing club at his high school - a club for ‘boring investment’, as he puts it - and it has grown from a club of 2 people - just him and his teacher - to over 40 of his peers. Chris emphasizes…
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Start “Doing Your Thing” with Author Ben Katt
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52:12The world is a better place when we are all trying to do the thing that lights us up. Ben Katt shares his experience of following his intuition and making a job change to focus on writing a book and rebooting his meditation teaching practice while in his 40s. Ben recently authored a book called “The Way Home: Discovering the Hero’s Journey to Whole…
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Money, Family, and Meaningful Work with Jodi Kantor and Ron Lieber
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59:24Jodi Kantor and Ron Lieber are both distinguished journalists at The New York Times, and today they join Carl to discuss the importance of financial stability for their family while pursuing work that is meaningful, both as individuals, and as a couple. Ron has been the “Your Money” columnist for The New York Times since 2008, and worked as the edi…
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Balancing Creative Freedom and Financial Stability with Brendan Leonard
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1:10:11What does it truly mean to balance success with artistic integrity? Brendan Leonard, an artist and creative known for his humorous and thoughtful writing at Semi-Rad.com, shares his journey through the delicate balance of staying true to his creative vision and the pressures of mass appeal. This episode explores a familiar theme on 50 Fires: Why do…
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Learning How (And When) To Say ‘Yes’ With Economist Stephanie Kelton
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55:37Stephanie Kelton is an American Economist, Academic, and a leading proponent of Modern Monetary Theory. She served as chief economist on the U.S. Senate Budget Committee in 2015, and POLITICO called her one of the 50 Most Influential Thinkers the year after. On this episode of 50 Fires, she joins Carl to share her own personal stories about money a…
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Getting Your Money In Alignment with Philosopher and Storyteller Peter Rollins
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1:07:33Peter Rollins is an Irish philosopher, author, storyteller, producer and public speaker who has gained an international reputation for overturning traditional notions of religion and being in the world. Peter joins Carl to reflect on how we can align our lives more closely with our values, using money to enable that alignment. This wide ranging con…
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Comedian and Former Police Officer King Hassan on Finding Joy in Any Pursuit
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36:36Comedian King Hassan has lived many lives - he’s a former police officer who somehow became a stand up comic and writer, now living in Los Angeles with his wife and three kids. He was born in Alabama to an American mother and Nigerian father, which led to often confusing and conflicting approaches to money, wealth, and identity. He and Carl discuss…
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The Essentials Of Money with Leadership Expert Greg McKeown
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1:02:57Carl welcomes Greg McKeown, the author of two New York Times bestsellers “Effortless: Make It Easier to Do What Matters Most”, and “Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less,” one of Carl’s favorite books. In this episode of 50 Fires, Greg and Carl discuss the concept of creating possibilities beyond money and why lack of capital should never b…
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Sharon Salzberg on Being Generous and Mindful with Your Money
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1:06:27Sharon Salzberg is a meditation pioneer, world-renowned teacher, and New York Times bestselling author. In fact, if you’ve come across the word ‘mindfulness’ in the past decade, Sharon has had a lot to do with it (at least here in the United States). On this episode of 50 Fires, Sharon shares how her experiences in India and Burma shaped her as a c…
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Bonus Minisode: Everyone Has a Money Story
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4:30Everyone has a meaningful story about money. What's yours? Start by answering this question: What's your earliest memory of money? Share yours by emailing Carl - [email protected] Email List: Sign up at https://www.50fires.com/ for our monthly email with resources for financial advisors! Follow 50 Fires on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/5…
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Meaningful Investing That Acutally Matters with Meb Faber
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36:40If you’ve ever felt like the investment advice you get feels closer from sources like CNBC feels like gambling (AKA The Financial Pornography Network) and want to be thoughtful about investing, this episode of 50 Fires is a great place to start. Carl welcomes Meb Faber, a co-founder and the Chief Investment Officer of Cambria Investment Management.…
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Bonus Minisode: What Happens When The Money Runs Out?
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10:25Have you ever found yourself gripped by the terrifying thought of your money running out? Join Carl in this bonus solo episode of 50 Fires, as he contemplates financial anxiety. Imagine if we viewed money not as a dwindling resource but as something more fluid and replenishable? This 'minisode' isn't just about financial strategies; it's an introsp…
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Living a Creative Life with Filmmaker and Songwriter Scott Ballew
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57:55Scott Ballew is a filmmaker, singer, and songwriter who has taken a remarkable journey from directing adventure films for Yeti to releasing music as a solo artist starting in his late 30s. Carl explores Scott's upbringing in a modest household in Austin, Texas, where his family faced financial struggles but maintained a stable environment. Scott de…
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Former Drug Dealer, Professor, and Author J. Dana Trent
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51:31Born to drug-dealing parents in rural Indiana, J. Dana Trent was a preschooler the first time she used a razor blade to cut up weed and fill dime bags for her schizophrenic father, King. This is the opening log line to her new memoir “Between Two Trailers”, and it is a wild story. She talks with Carl about the experience of hustling with her father…
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